Empyror
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07.02.2011 - 04:17Rating: 9
Written by Angelic Storm on 06.02.2011 at 15:03
Ive just listened to the 3 bonus tracks "Castaway", "Last Shore", and "Hallowed". "Castaway" is awesome, and is very reminiscent of the classic "Black Diamond". Especially the signature opening keyboard riff, with which it bears an uncanny similarity without being a straight copy of it. It should have been on the album proper, an amazing melodic speed metal Strato song! xD
"Last Shore" is decent, and has a nice keyboard outro. "Hallowed" is a great song. More moody, and mid paced with a lot of atmosphere. I really love this one.
Where did you hear these at?
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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Written by Empyror on 07.02.2011 at 04:17 Where did you hear these at?
I downloaded them.
I obviously can't post any links here though...
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09.02.2011 - 14:01Rating: 7
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Written by Fat & Sassy! on 01.02.2011 at 22:08
I'm sorry, but are you a robot of some sort? I'm not trying to be a dick, but I can't help but notice that all your comments are a bunch of numbers and stuff, not very insightful at all.
Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. It's a bit annoying, really. It does nothing to promote discussion, and it's nothing that can't be just as easily stated in the album votes.
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Written by Doc G. on 09.02.2011 at 14:01
Written by Fat & Sassy! on 01.02.2011 at 22:08
I'm sorry, but are you a robot of some sort? I'm not trying to be a dick, but I can't help but notice that all your comments are a bunch of numbers and stuff, not very insightful at all.
Yeah, I've noticed the same thing. It's a bit annoying, really. It does nothing to promote discussion, and it's nothing that can't be just as easily stated in the album votes.
Sounds to me as this guy gives his 'verdict' about an album and that's all. I mean, as if he believes by posting this he ends up all discussion and teaches us the 'undeniable truth'. His posts give me the feeling he believes his opinion is the one and final.
And, in fact, his posts explain absolutely nothing and are only a dead list of numbers. Pointless.
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LOOOOOL, I'm sorry, this latest turn in discussion has been very funny. What's wrong if the guy just wants to give ratings to various aspects of the album? Sure it can be construed as being omniscient, but is a review or even an opinion any different?
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Written by [user id=107773] on 09.02.2011 at 20:05
LOOOOOL, I'm sorry, this latest turn in discussion has been very funny. What's wrong if the guy just wants to give ratings to various aspects of the album? Sure it can be construed as being omniscient, but is a review or even an opinion any different?
Yes. In fact, they are.
... Now imagine if I left my post at that and did not explain why. I mean, you are wondering why, right? That's basically what numbers are. It doesn't give you an idea of *why* someone likes something or whatever. No reasoning whatsoever. The point to these threads is to "discuss" things. Just posting numbers or "I like this, cus I like it comments" are fairly pointless. It's not insightful at all, and we learn nothing about others thoughts, ideas, and perspectives.
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Written by Fat & Sassy! on 09.02.2011 at 22:24
Written by [user id=107773] on 09.02.2011 at 20:05
LOOOOOL, I'm sorry, this latest turn in discussion has been very funny. What's wrong if the guy just wants to give ratings to various aspects of the album? Sure it can be construed as being omniscient, but is a review or even an opinion any different?
Yes. In fact, they are.
... Now imagine if I left my post at that and did not explain why. I mean, you are wondering why, right? That's basically what numbers are. It doesn't give you an idea of *why* someone likes something or whatever. No reasoning whatsoever. The point to these threads is to "discuss" things. Just posting numbers or "I like this, cus I like it comments" are fairly pointless. It's not insightful at all, and we learn nothing about others thoughts, ideas, and perspectives.
Surely that's what the numbers represent? If only in an introverted manner,nothing else.
difference, it's not hard to understand.
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Written by [user id=107773] on 09.02.2011 at 23:11
Surely that's what the numbers represent? If only in an introverted manner,nothing else.
So... what do they exactly represent? That's my point. We do not know. Why do people bother writing reviews if they could just slap a meaningless number on it? Why do some reviewers fill the rating slot with N/A?
To draw a parallel here:
Do you go through life questioning nothing? I mean, if you are challenged with a conflict in your life, do you just accept it for what it is or try and figure out WHY the conflict exists in the first place to reach a better understanding of the problem?
This is the kind of reasoning I think is important to follow when throwing out an opinion or whatever.
"Oh, well I think this album sucks."
"Why?"
"Uh... I just do."
"Oh, cool story, bro. Glad we've reached some sort of understanding."
This is what numbers mean to me.
Okay... If you can't understand where I'm coming from now, I don't know what to tell you. I tried my best. ;P
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Written by Fat & Sassy! on 09.02.2011 at 23:34
Written by [user id=107773] on 09.02.2011 at 23:11
Surely that's what the numbers represent? If only in an introverted manner,nothing else.
So... what do they exactly represent? That's my point. We do not know. Why do people bother writing reviews if they could just slap a meaningless number on it? Why do some reviewers fill the rating slot with N/A?
To draw a parallel here:
Do you go through life questioning nothing? I mean, if you are challenged with a conflict in your life, do you just accept it for what it is or try and figure out WHY the conflict exists in the first place to reach a better understanding of the problem?
This is the kind of reasoning I think is important to follow when throwing out an opinion or whatever.
"Oh, well I think this album sucks."
"Why?"
"Uh... I just do."
"Oh, cool story, bro. Glad we've reached some sort of understanding."
This is what numbers mean to me.
Okay... If you can't understand where I'm coming from now, I don't know what to tell you. I tried my best. ;P
I'm a conflict free introvert, so yeah, that's how I go about things.
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Written by [user id=107773] on 10.02.2011 at 00:00
I'm a conflict free introvert, so yeah, that's how I go about things.
See what I did there? Totally just used this whole discussion as an example. Now... I have a better understanding of where you are coming from. SO... I will just end it there, since
a)We are pretty off-topic
b)We've kinda come to a resolution
c)I don't really know you well enough to share anymore of my philosophical thoughts on the the subject at hand. Don't wanna offend.
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Written by Fat & Sassy! on 10.02.2011 at 00:08
Written by [user id=107773] on 10.02.2011 at 00:00
I'm a conflict free introvert, so yeah, that's how I go about things.
See what I did there? Totally just used this whole discussion as an example. Now... I have a better understanding of where you are coming from. SO... I will just end it there, since
a)We are pretty off-topic
b)We've kinda come to a resolution
c)I don't really know you well enough to share anymore of my philosophical thoughts on the the subject at hand. Don't wanna offend.
Hahaha lol, it's not what you think.
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10.02.2011 - 00:56Rating: 6
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Written by Andreas on 04.02.2011 at 17:08
Written by fade on 24.01.2011 at 21:41
Seriously anything over a 6 is over rated.
That's just your opinion
Well duh, I certainly don't speak for anyone else but me as this was not my review.
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Kropy
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11.02.2011 - 18:47Rating: 9
Thanks for your feedback.
Assessment is for me.
I need to know these values for further work with CD for archiving, etc.
My English is not good for writing reviews.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'll still use this assessment.
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Written by Kropy on 11.02.2011 at 18:47
Thanks for you feedback.
Assessment is for me.
I need to know these values for further work with CD for archiving, etc.
My English is not good for writing reviews.
I'm sorry to disappoint you, but I'll still use this assessment.
@Whoever was arguing with me: What are you saying now? Make a ridiculous inference and run off ¬¬
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MJOLNIR
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14.02.2011 - 20:33Rating: 10
A fantastic album, Polaris was a good comeback, but now Elysium is the real deal. The title track is my favourite, I have not heard Timo Kotipelto sing that well since the song "Celestial Dream" off Infinite. Stratovarius can only get better, and I can not wait for their next album.
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Obaida
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This album is not like the old Stratovarius's releases, but if we want to compare it with other power releases, it's perfect, amazing and an epic masterpiece !
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ARGON
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17.02.2011 - 19:42Rating: 10
JUST AWESOME
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consign2oblivion
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16.03.2011 - 17:33Rating: 7
Quite "feeble" in total, but I still love their melodies and vocals and drums.
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I'm not really a fan of euro power metal.The the darkest hours chorus has been stuck in my head for far too long now.
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Starchild
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16.04.2011 - 19:39Rating: 9
I'm big fan of old stratovarius (episode, visions, destiny, infinite), and I thought that they will never again be on that level. Last 3 albums was mediocre, and i lost hope they will produce a great album again, but i was wrong. This album is amazing, definitelly return to form, their comeback. I like that progressive touch in some songs, and dark apocaliptic atmosphere/lyrics, melodies are great, and new guitarist Matias Kupiainen made a really good job, and can't forget to mention last song (18 mins of epicness ) So, great album, Stratovarius rocks again!!!
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Well, overall is and average album, I was going to rate it with a 7, but the 18-minute track is pure gold
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Berserk
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30.05.2011 - 01:13Rating: 10
Started listening to it and thought it was pretty good. Then I got to the last song, eylsium, and I ended up being very impressed
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The Norseman
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01.06.2011 - 18:22Rating: 5
Even tho I listen to power metal for more than 10 years I never really gave a try to a Stratovarius album from the start to the end, this was my first. I started to listen with an open mind, I don't care about their popularity and their classic albums, I'm just listening to this album as if it was from a new unknown band.
Well.. I really can give more than a 6, and even 6 was being nice so I end up with a 5. I gave the album a lot of spins waiting to see if it would grow on me (sometimes happens) but even still, nothing... overall I just didn't enjoy. Cain's Offering (with the same vocals) was a much more enjoyable album for me.
Sorry Stratovarius fans, this album might sound good for you but for me... it's just didnt trigger.
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AXA
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17.06.2011 - 15:32Rating: 6
Yeah brother The Norseman ,,, i agree with u
i try to hear this album as new metal band ,,, not Stratovarius
this a nother bad album with good sound
i can give this album more than a 6 ... maybe 6 .5
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04.07.2011 - 08:18Rating: 8
Very good album. A couple of songs arent that good but ts mostly ups.
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DJCynic
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12.02.2012 - 02:48Rating: 7
Written by The Norseman on 01.06.2011 at 18:22
Even tho I listen to power metal for more than 10 years I never really gave a try to a Stratovarius album from the start to the end, this was my first. I started to listen with an open mind, I don't care about their popularity and their classic albums, I'm just listening to this album as if it was from a new unknown band.
Well.. I really can give more than a 6, and even 6 was being nice so I end up with a 5. I gave the album a lot of spins waiting to see if it would grow on me (sometimes happens) but even still, nothing... overall I just didn't enjoy. Cain's Offering (with the same vocals) was a much more enjoyable album for me.
Sorry Stratovarius fans, this album might sound good for you but for me... it's just didnt trigger.
yeah me too i like most cain's offering - gather the faithful then this album.elysium is just not a classic for me but not boring either
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I think this album and polaris are the best of Stratovarius' albums, and a reason for this is the way how Kotipelto sings now, I feel his way of sing now, before he only sing in the way that Tolkki demands.
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Boring.
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Stratovarius is power metal band. So im asking where is the power? Certainly not here
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Stunning Cactus
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06.08.2014 - 06:30Rating: 8
I will never understand what people liked more about Nemesis. This album blows it away in every aspect.
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