Bad English Tage Westerlund
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In some way I think this band in writing be more original as real venom , seems they will keep 80's when Venom was good alive, but original venom already drawn in creativity ....
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 12:24
In some way I think this band in writing be more original as real venom , seems they will keep 80's when Venom was good alive, but original venom already drawn in creativity ....
I think the last Venom album was quite good, if we go by Venom standards.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 26.04.2015 at 12:56
Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 12:24
In some way I think this band in writing be more original as real venom , seems they will keep 80's when Venom was good alive, but original venom already drawn in creativity ....
I think the last Venom album was quite good, if we go by Venom standards.
True, but it wont change a fact whole 90's was bad
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 13:10
True, but it wont change a fact whole 90's was bad
90s were bad for metal in general.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 26.04.2015 at 13:13
Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 13:10
True, but it wont change a fact whole 90's was bad
90s were bad for metal in general.
disagree new good genres born BM, Doom and all sub genres, metal was alive everywhere even in HM
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 13:19
disagree new good genres born BM, Doom and all sub genres, metal was alive everywhere even in HM
Not for the traditional genres which Venom was part of. The new genres of course they gained a bit of notoriety since they were new. But for the 70s and 80s bands, it was the true nemesis. And even doom and death metal bands experienced a decline in the late 90s. Black metal (as in traditional BM) started to go downwards since the 2000s.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 26.04.2015 at 13:25
Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 13:19
disagree new good genres born BM, Doom and all sub genres, metal was alive everywhere even in HM
Not for the traditional genres which Venom was part of. The new genres of course they gained a bit of notoriety since they were new. But for the 70s and 80s bands, it was the true nemesis. And even doom and death metal bands experienced a decline in the late 90s. Black metal (as in traditional BM) started to go downwards since the 2000s.
True, but old bands get old as whit age, new cant write original material and its overwriting
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TheMAGAmvm Soycrusher
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Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 13:26
True, but old bands get old as whit age, new cant write original material and its overwriting
It is not about bands getting older as many proved that they still have inspiration and drive even 20-30 years after they debuted, it is about trends and the income of new generations. Like it or not, these bands were popular among teenagers, high-schoolers or uni students. It worked until lets say... they got around 25-30. They then married, started a family, made children and the interest and time allocated to the music you love and the bands you used to follow decreases. This whole revival of 70s and 80s bands is about those people that now have big children (some of them adults) and now they once again have the time to follow their passions. They raised their children, they studied, advanced in their careers, they now have steady incomes and instead of just following a daily routine consisting of sleep-work-eat, they prefer to go back to the good old teenage times by following the artists they so much admired. Sure, exceptions can be found anywhere, but this is the trend. New generations come with different mentality and a different approach towards the music they like. They come with their own sounds. But the old-generation, until helping the new ones stand with their feet on the ground, they have less time to go to concerts and less money to buy a CD or a vinyl of the bands they loved. Who says otherwise, they do not know how costly is to raise a child these days.
Some of these bands, more or less aware of this inevitable change experimend with different sounds. This made the remaining traditional fans rejecting them, and most of them were no that succesful in attracting the new generation either. Some of them went so high in their hey-day that it was impossible for them to completely fall back to their status before becoming mainstream. In the end this is the effect of all trends. You have the moment of inception, you have the culmination point, and you have the inevitable downful. But since life is unpredictable, you never know when people will ask for you to once again pick up the guitar and do some more gigs or release more albums.
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Bad English Tage Westerlund
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 26.04.2015 at 14:06
Written by Bad English on 26.04.2015 at 13:26
True, but old bands get old as whit age, new cant write original material and its overwriting
It is not about bands getting older as many proved that they still have inspiration and drive even 20-30 years after they debuted, it is about trends and the income of new generations. Like it or not, these bands were popular among teenagers, high-schoolers or uni students. It worked until lets say... they got around 25-30. They then married, started a family, made children and the interest and time allocated to the music you love and the bands you used to follow decreases. This whole revival of 70s and 80s bands is about those people that now have big children (some of them adults) and now they once again have the time to follow their passions. They raised their children, they studied, advanced in their careers, they now have steady incomes and instead of just following a daily routine consisting of sleep-work-eat, they prefer to go back to the good old teenage times by following the artists they so much admired. Sure, exceptions can be found anywhere, but this is the trend. New generations come with different mentality and a different approach towards the music they like. They come with their own sounds. But the old-generation, until helping the new ones stand with their feet on the ground, they have less time to go to concerts and less money to buy a CD or a vinyl of the bands they loved. Who says otherwise, they do not know how costly is to raise a child these days.
Some of these bands, more or less aware of this inevitable change experimend with different sounds. This made the remaining traditional fans rejecting them, and most of them were no that succesful in attracting the new generation either. Some of them went so high in their hey-day that it was impossible for them to completely fall back to their status before becoming mainstream. In the end this is the effect of all trends. You have the moment of inception, you have the culmination point, and you have the inevitable downful. But since life is unpredictable, you never know when people will ask for you to once again pick up the guitar and do some more gigs or release more albums.
I agree, that's why I am single and don't have a kids, I still listen same bands, new same genre bands , but venom problem is one guitar in many cases (only where it works is Grace Digger, Black Sabbath) are way to week and such music, they care more about enertaning and basically are posers, what piss me of they thinks they are only BM band when we know real BM how it sounds like. ... but that problem whit sound has all NWOBHM bands .. Diamon Head , take a C4 and blow all their records no big deal, Raven, Tank who survived, I wonder how
Iron maiden, Saxon only ones from UK who survived and had famose even Saxon mid 90's albums were weak / week
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ANGEL REAPER
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Now we have 2 Venoms ...now they can suck twice as bad
No seriously i think that Venoms times are gone ,too late ,too late for that:D
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Ridiculous -_-
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Trismegistos
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So...M-Pire of Evil changes their name to create confusion. Got it.
Actually, if this sounds anything like M-Pire of Evil it will be a better representation of Venom than Venom.
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Gullveig
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Written by Vombatus on 26.04.2015 at 15:30
"We need money."
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mikeprado30
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Written by TheMAGAmvm on 26.04.2015 at 13:13
90s were bad for metal in general.
Just a pic. (yes, way offtopic but is a proof that I disagree )
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Dr. Strawberry
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Totally a redundant act, Venom is not considered timeless. Btw, the logo looks totally Venom ! it's an infringement of copyright. Who is the copyright owner of the brand name "Venom" anyway ? Cronos ?
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I am count Cronos vampire supreme!!
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Karlabos
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Written by bblitz on 08.01.2017 at 22:27
I am count Cronos vampire supreme!!
con... gratulations?
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