I disagree with 8 and 10 but all the others totally agreed with.

Painkiller 1999? Huh?1990 that should read

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2017 at 22:14

Painkiller 1999? Huh?1990 that should read

Fixed, thanks! I have no idea how I fucked that one up

Also, as I understand You really like Axioma Ethica Odini, but do You consider it better than Isa?

Written by Metren on 18.12.2017 at 22:17

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2017 at 22:14

Painkiller 1999? Huh?1990 that should read

Fixed, thanks! I have no idea how I fucked that one up

Also, as I understand You really like Axioma Ethica Odini, but do You consider it better than Isa?

No, but I think I would say Isa is the overrated album in their discography.

Btw AEO but also far from near my favourite Enslaved albums.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2017 at 22:18

No, but I think I would say Isa is the overrated album in their discography.

Interesting. For me, Isa is one of the easiest 10s I've ever given an album here on MS. Of course, some years ago I also felt like AEO was a 10 (now I consider it a 7.5), so that might still change.

My opinion on number 1 (Painkiller) changes from time to time. At first I agreed it was overrated, but I don't find it to be that bad anymore. Same with Watershed. Dead Heart In A Dead World is very good, but not as good as This Godless Endeavor imo. One more thing: I find Blackwater Park to be a bit overrated, especially compared to other Opeth albums, like MAYH, Still Life, and Morningrise.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 18.12.2017 at 22:19
my favourite Enslaved albums.

What are your fave Enslaved albums? I really enjoy their debut, it seems ahead of its time. Also Below The Lights.

Disagree with 7 and 8, for most of the rest you could erase any given album and write in the band at large instead.

For Opeth, the overrated album is deffo Blackwater Park . For Enslaved... I kind of buy the choice but not the argument as Isa for me is in about the same league.

Finally, someone speaks the truth about Nevermore. Disagree with 4 and 8, but agree with the others (that I've heard). Although I do like Painkiller, it's too inconsistent to be considered one of their best.
I'd put Master Of Puppets at number 1. I don't like literally half the songs on it.

Written by M C Vice on 19.12.2017 at 12:33

Finally, someone speaks the truth about Nevermore. Disagree with 4 and 8, but agree with the others (that I've heard). Although I do like Painkiller, it's too inconsistent to be considered one of their best.
I'd put Master Of Puppets at number 1. I don't like literally half the songs on it.

I like every song on MoP, but RtL is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better

Written by [user id=159927] on 19.12.2017 at 20:30

I like every song on MoP, but RtL is sooooooooooooooooooooo much better

That's 100% how I feel. I don't understand the "MoP perfected what RtL tried" attitude at all, RTL had superior songwriting hands down and that's what matters most to me.

Auch I really disagree with this one. Painkiller is to me the greatest metal album of all time, by quite a margin even. Forced is the last word that can be used to describe it, what is forced about it? It feels surprisingly spontaneous even. It is packed with so many small delicious details, especially in the guitar work, that almost sounds improvised at times, I keep discovering new things even the 100th time I listen, stuff that just makes the album so much more interesting in my opinion. And by God, does the album flow well! There is such a strong consistency in the style and atmosphere, and the transitions are butter smooth. It is brutal, yet melodic and extremely catchy. Listening to Painkiller is like being in a euphoric trance to me. Few albums does that to me and even fewer metal albums.

...And Justice for All is another very special album to me. I for one adore the production, I thought that clean sound distinguished it from its predecessors in a very cool way, that also complemented the more complicated song structure very well. The album is packed with awesome riffs and smooth transitions, that make most prog. bands look like amateurs in comparison.
I don't really feel any Metallica albums are overpraised, maybe Kill 'Em All and Ride the Lightning a little bit.

Once you got to Scenes from a Memory, I just accepted that you have a very different taste from me, you litterally picked 3 of my 10-20 all time favorite metal albums and called them overrated :p

Completely disagree with Summoning - Stronghold. I place them a far higher benchmark than Immortal or Emperor. Maybe not as technically good, but way more original at the time and has some of their best songs - probably my favourite Summoning album!

I agree with a lot of the others. Especially Nightfall in Middle Earth - i couldn't imagine listening to that album from start to finish. I'm not a Metallica and, but that alum you listed is the one they literally removed all the bassist sound from, so it probably sounds like shit from that.

Well, I disagree with the first two, they belong to my top-10 of all time
Nevermore's This Godless Endeavor is much better than Dead Heart In A Dead World I think, so we agree on that. Anything Enslaved have done after the first two albums doesn't appeal to me at all. Opeth is a band that bores me to death and the rest in the list I don't particularly care about.
So yeah, taste is subjective but Painkiller and Justice? Really man?
Oh well...

Only agree with 2 and 3, the rest I enjoy immensely. Especially 4, 5 and 6. To each their own I guess. But then again, if they really deserve all the praise they get is another issue. I mean, all the albums on the list are really good, but there are many better overlooked albums out there, obviously.

Just saw my second favourite album of alltime on this list.

So yeah I disagree with 1, 5, 6, 7 and 10

Totally agree with the latest Ayreon album and the remark about the production of AJFA is spot on imo.

I strongly disagree with Summoning and Guardian.

Stronghold is one of the few albums which I can listen to back front any given day. Dunno why so many people hate on it. Same goes for Nightfall .. there are just so many amazing songs on it.

I agree with most choices

Anathema's Alternative 4 overrated? I wouldn't say that. Anything that came after Judgement is though (I still like a few things here and there)
That's my favorite Nevermore album

Written by John_Doe on 21.01.2019 at 09:51

I agree with most choices

Anathema's Alternative 4 overrated? I wouldn't say that. Anything that came after Judgement is though (I still like a few things here and there)
That's my favorite Nevermore album

Thanks for checking out my lists! As I say in the description, I don't like Nevermore in general. Their sound and songwriting just never clicked with me, probably my own fault though, as almost everyone on MS seems to love them

I agree with most of those except for Summoning and to an extent Dream Theater. That Summoning album I don't really get how one couldn't enjoy it, although it's pretty slow it has a fantastic atmosphere. Metropolis though, I 100% get what you mean, Dream Theater never really were that good with ballads and there's a bit of wankery here and there, although definitely much much less than on the following few albums. Anyways, it's always nice to see other people's opinions ! I'd add Blackwater Park and Lateralus to that list

Written by Vinther1991 on 19.12.2017 at 23:44

Auch I really disagree with this one. Painkiller is to me the greatest metal album of all time, by quite a margin even. Forced is the last word that can be used to describe it, what is forced about it? It feels surprisingly spontaneous even. It is packed with so many small delicious details, especially in the guitar work, that almost sounds improvised at times, I keep discovering new things even the 100th time I listen, stuff that just makes the album so much more interesting in my opinion. And by God, does the album flow well! There is such a strong consistency in the style and atmosphere, and the transitions are butter smooth. It is brutal, yet melodic and extremely catchy. Listening to Painkiller is like being in a euphoric trance to me. Few albums does that to me and even fewer metal albums.

...And Justice for All is another very special album to me. I for one adore the production, I thought that clean sound distinguished it from its predecessors in a very cool way, that also complemented the more complicated song structure very well. The album is packed with awesome riffs and smooth transitions, that make most prog. bands look like amateurs in comparison.
I don't really feel any Metallica albums are overpraised, maybe Kill 'Em All and Ride the Lightning a little bit.

Yes! Thanks for defending Painkiller and Justice!
For me, overrated albums would be: Number of the Beast, Reign in Blood, Paranoid, and Bonded by Blood. But everyone to their own opinion