Elio Red Nightmare
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09.12.2010 - 18:38Rating: 9
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IntoPlighT said: "Slipknot is 15 years old how the fuck is that Nu metal?"
BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
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Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Bte reading through this thread it's apparent Agalloch fans are just as bad as Opeth fans.
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This one's very hard to get into, even harder than 'The Mantle', while I LOVED 'Ashes From The Grain' from the first go, I am slowly getting in the 'zone' with this album...
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advent
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.12.2010 at 22:05
Bte reading through this thread it's apparent Agalloch fans are just as bad as Opeth fans.
And I am fan of both
BTW the album is a huge disappointment to me, it needs more time to grow on me.
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Elio Red Nightmare
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10.12.2010 - 01:26Rating: 9
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.12.2010 at 22:05
Bte reading through this thread it's apparent Agalloch fans are just as bad as Opeth fans.
So you're saying I'm bad?
C'mon, what can I do if I like it a lot? I don't expect everybody to love it as I do, I know I'm biased.
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IntoPlighT said: "Slipknot is 15 years old how the fuck is that Nu metal?"
BEST. QUOTE. EVER.
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Mikyz
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10.12.2010 - 11:05Rating: 8
Well, I don't find this album to be particularly bad, at first I was infatuated by it but after a while its effect dissipated and the only song that I seem to go back is Into The Painted Grey. So all in all, it's a solid album for me, but it's far below the level of The Mantle.
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Merchant of Doom
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Great album, a bit unfocussed here and there, but still very enjoyable... as far as I'm concerned, it ranks high up there with The Mantle and Ashes... and to the people who moan about Agalloch, I'd like to ask: how many bands have given you such consistency? Marrow might not be a masterpiece, but it's pretty good stuff...
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Battlelord
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This is a really nice review, thanks.
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the stranger
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10.12.2010 - 18:08Rating: 6
This is a disappointment, no, it's not a bad album, but it's not great either. It is a decent album, an enjoyable one. Nothing less, nothing more.
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Black Lake Nidstang is the best. This and Ashes kick Pale Folklore and The Mantle in the balls. "The old stuff is the best" blah fucking blah.
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spirit_inblack harshhead
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Looks like a lot of people won't be ordering from Viva Hate again in the future..
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VPeter
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 09.12.2010 at 22:05
Bte reading through this thread it's apparent Agalloch fans are just as bad as Opeth fans.
Do you really mean "this thread"? because so far there is no Agalloch fan crying out loud "THIS IS A MASTERPIECE!!!! MOVE OVER BEETHOVEN AND MOZART!!!! HOW DARE YOU DOUBT OPETH"S GREATNESS!!!". There are actually a pretty lot honest people saying they find it a disappointment to. Is your comment directed to Agalloch fans here who still love this album? purely because they don't find it a disappointment? that is just as close minded as a radical Opeth fan. I'm not saying your just as bad as an Opeth fan, but that comment kind of hints in to that direction.
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Merchant of Doom
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I think it's a good album... great or not, it depends on how you see the change of direction... personally, I wouldn't have liked another Ashes... that would have been boring...
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flamey
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I had great expectations on this one, and I was quite disappointed. I think it is an uninspired album. Not necessarily bad, but certainly doesn't live upto their standards.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
11.12.2010 - 11:30Rating: 7
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.12.2010 at 15:53 and to the people who moan about Agalloch, I'd like to ask: how many bands have given you such consistency?
Oh, do you mean with 3 consecutive albums? Or 4? MANY:
Enslaved, Moonsorrow, Satyricon, Drudkh, Slayer, Opeth, Candlemass, Behemoth, Morbid Angel, Death. I'll stop at 10, off the top of my head, but I can name 50.
I don't "moan" about this album, I simply find it much weaker than their previous 3 releases. And believe me, Agalloch is among 10 bands that I would never want to have to say this about.
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Written by Daniell on 11.12.2010 at 11:30
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.12.2010 at 15:53 and to the people who moan about Agalloch, I'd like to ask: how many bands have given you such consistency?
Oh, do you mean with 3 consecutive albums? Or 4? MANY:
Enslaved, Moonsorrow, Satyricon, Drudkh, Slayer, Opeth, Candlemass, Behemoth, Morbid Angel, Death. I'll stop at 10, off the top of my head, but I can name 50.
I don't "moan" about this album, I simply find it much weaker than their previous 3 releases. And believe me, Agalloch is among 10 bands that I would never want to have to say this about.
*Yawn* Who cares what you do or don't want to have to say about Agalloch.
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Dangerboner Lactation Cnslt
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11.12.2010 - 19:12Rating: 9
Go ahead and put me in the Agalloch fanboy club. I love this album. This, along with Black Cascade, sounds amazing on my terrible non-music speakers at work. Apparently both albums were recorded using old analog equipment.
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Written by Dangerboner on 11.12.2010 at 19:12
Go ahead and put me in the Agalloch fanboy club. I love this album. This, along with Black Cascade, sounds amazing on my terrible non-music speakers at work. Apparently both albums were recorded using old analog equipment.
Yeah, I cranked this up in my car on a long drive the other day and it sounds incredible.
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Marcus Doit Like Bernie
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Like everyone else I had my hopes up way too high for this release. Don't get me wrong its a good album but obviously one has to compare it to their previous work and MotS is unfortunately much worse.
Written by Daniell on 09.12.2010 at 10:08
I was about to review this album. I listened to it 15 times (I always count, and my absolute minimum for reviewing is 10 times). I sat in front of my keyboard and then I felt I wasn't ready. I spent several days listening to the album 10 more times. I wrote the damn review and didn't submit it. I may, but in a few months, when I'm sure about what I wrote.
Why so much commotion? Because this album disappointed me like no other album for the last few years. Because I still can't believe that one of my favourite bands could release such a barren, lifeless album, full of ideas that go nowhere and don't mean much.
If I hadn't listened to this album before reading the review, I would have expected a lot. The review is excellent, 10 times better than the album
So what, review it anyway. It'll be nice to have a review with a vastly different perspective.
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Zuzuz0r
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I find this album to be better than some previous releases like Pale Folklore(don't get me wrong, I like it a lot, but honestly I enjoy MotS better), and probably at the same level of The Mantle and Ashes Against the Grain. Though, I still consider The Mantle to be their total masterpiece, this one stands out pretty well.
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
12.12.2010 - 02:53Rating: 8
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Written by Marcus on 12.12.2010 at 02:23
Like everyone else I had my hopes up way too high for this release. Don't get me wrong its a good album but obviously one has to compare it to their previous work and MotS is unfortunately much worse.
Written by Daniell on 09.12.2010 at 10:08
I was about to review this album. I listened to it 15 times (I always count, and my absolute minimum for reviewing is 10 times). I sat in front of my keyboard and then I felt I wasn't ready. I spent several days listening to the album 10 more times. I wrote the damn review and didn't submit it. I may, but in a few months, when I'm sure about what I wrote.
Why so much commotion? Because this album disappointed me like no other album for the last few years. Because I still can't believe that one of my favourite bands could release such a barren, lifeless album, full of ideas that go nowhere and don't mean much.
If I hadn't listened to this album before reading the review, I would have expected a lot. The review is excellent, 10 times better than the album
So what, review it anyway. It'll be nice to have a review with a vastly different perspective.
Agreed! Bring it on Daniell
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Susan Smeghead ElitePosts: 6941 |
12.12.2010 - 05:11Rating: 8
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I'll admit, I can sort of understand why some of you are disappointed. It's not The Mantle, and not as good as some other releases as well. Yet, take it on its own merit (instead of comparing) and it's everything wonderful I said it was. Just don't listen to The Mantle immediately before listening to this .....
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Merchant of Doom
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Written by Daniell on 11.12.2010 at 11:30
Written by Merchant of Doom on 10.12.2010 at 15:53 and to the people who moan about Agalloch, I'd like to ask: how many bands have given you such consistency?
Oh, do you mean with 3 consecutive albums? Or 4? MANY:
Enslaved, Moonsorrow, Satyricon, Drudkh, Slayer, Opeth, Candlemass, Behemoth, Morbid Angel, Death. I'll stop at 10, off the top of my head, but I can name 50.
I don't "moan" about this album, I simply find it much weaker than their previous 3 releases. And believe me, Agalloch is among 10 bands that I would never want to have to say this about.
apart from Enslaved and Opeth, I don't like any of the band you quoted... maybe there lies the problem...
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6101 |
13.12.2010 - 10:28Rating: 7
Yeah, it looks like it
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But the issue is: I love all the bands you quoted and I don't see this record as being much more inconsistent compared to other ones. Surely everyone should generally agree that it is the worst Agalloch album so far...but it's far from a disappointment (or a major success, for that matter). Finish your review and post it!
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nymetal
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I Love this band. Having recently just found out about them, I immediately rounded up their albums. Haven't gotten through them all, but The Mantle, and Ashes of the Grain have taken me to another level. Seriously deep music, with an atmospheric sound that draws you in no matter where your mind is.
I am sorry to say, not only did I think the recording itself sounded to be of poorer quality than Ashes of the Grain, I found the album a little boring. It's good, but it doesn't blow me away. This album takes you places, and it does pull you in, but I personally do not feel as if they drew me in the whole journey. I wish the sound quality were better.
I was hoping for more. That is about all I can say in conclusion. I know they have released quite a few albums, many with lengthy songs, but this will not be as memorable to me as others. Next time they travel to the Romanian Carpathian Mountains, I hope we get something different.
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omjaimes omjaimes
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17.12.2010 - 22:02Rating: 9
12:30 - 14:37 in Black Lake Nidstang is epic
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Troy Killjoy perfunctionist StaffPosts: 21306 |
22.12.2010 - 20:58Rating: 8
Probably my least favorite Agalloch release. It's good, don't get me wrong. But it lacks the complexity of their earlier works and seems a little more...blunt, which for me doesn't work with the atmosphere of the album.
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gattz
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24.12.2010 - 20:21Rating: 9
What does it matter if the album isn't "as good" (this is completely subjective and mood sensitive) as it's predecessors?
The fact is, Agalloch puts out music of the highest quality and originality, and using the fact that you enjoy their earlier work more, to propose distaste in their latest release, is completely devoid of sense.
Some really sad responses on here.
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