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Posted by Valentin B, 29.01.2007 - 16:47
which music genres do you think will never merge, due to the enormous differences? i think:
-jazz black metal(the technicality gap is incredible)
-power death metal(sure, some bands tried, but you just can't, since you'll either get more melodeath or you'll just end up writing some heavy power stuff)
-gangsta rap+"-core"(gangsta rap is all about "bitches, shootings, and cops" rapping over a simple drumbeat, while hardcore is more based on stomp rhythms and moshing riffs, and don't get me started on grindcore)
-country+every metal genre(country is mostly about a dude with a guitar doing some simple chord progressions and singing in a redneck voice about how he took the horse out for a ride or stuff, while metal, in musical essence and lyrics, just couldn't be more different)
08.03.2007 - 00:39
Kap'N Korrupt
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I think symphonic death metal wouldn't be that possible of a genre...I think it already exists...
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08.03.2007 - 00:47
Immortal Plague
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Ahh I know probally like Hip Hope Black Metal, or Reggae Death Metal, I also think probably Funk and Thrash Metal, also Emo and Black Metal.
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08.03.2007 - 09:24
FAITH & MUSIC
Written by [user id=5394] on 07.03.2007 at 19:05

Written by FAITH & MUSIC on 06.03.2007 at 17:33

Im eager to hear if any bands playing National Socialist Power Metal to oppose National Socialist Black Metal.

Try out Finist. A side project by Saturious from Nokturnal Mortum. The band plays Nazi Powermetal with sometimes harsh vocals.
In my opinion Finist is totally worthless, and the singer should hang himself instantly for bringing such awful singing into this world

I checked. Their music is not like I imagine as National Socialist Power Metal. I dont know about other song but I listened to 3 songs from their myspace, its not awful and absurd as I expect. The NSPM I want is like combined of dark atmosphere (like Burzum, Absurd, Ohtar) and power/cheesy element, though they are more cheesy, only dark by the black metal vocal. Contrary, some riff solos are indeed good. IMO their music is awful but not much absurdNational Socialist. And if they committed focus on power metal as more professional, their song can be really good power metal stuff.
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08.03.2007 - 11:43
Eight
Shapeshifter
Technical Blackened Reggae would be nice.
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08.03.2007 - 14:38
Opium Magnet
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Jazz-influenced Funk Power Metal is impossible to imagine... then again, so many other combinations are, too!
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08.03.2007 - 15:06
Warman
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Written by Paganblood on 07.03.2007 at 16:58

what do you think about symphonic death metal?

If a talented band did it, I'm sure it would work in some way...
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08.03.2007 - 15:09
Paganblood
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@warman:Yes it would... it would indeed be successful.
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08.03.2007 - 15:16
Paganblood
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Written by [user id=2084] on 08.03.2007 at 00:39

I think symphonic death metal wouldn't be that possible of a genre...I think it already exists...

Already exists? that would be great... do you know about any such bands?
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08.03.2007 - 17:13
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Written by Paganblood on 08.03.2007 at 15:16

Written by [user id=2084] on 08.03.2007 at 00:39

I think symphonic death metal wouldn't be that possible of a genre...I think it already exists...

Already exists? that would be great... do you know about any such bands?

Dark Lunacy would be one, their death metal is closer to gothenburg than extreme death though. And when Therion started to present symphonies in their death metal, I guess there is another one. I'm not sure which album is in question because I haven't listened to those released before Theli.

Personally I think symphonic thrash metal would be more difficult to imagine.
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08.03.2007 - 18:09
Kap'N Korrupt
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Written by Graveheart on 08.03.2007 at 17:13

Personally I think symphonic thrash metal would be more difficult to imagine.

Well...didn't Metallica attempt something like that on S&M?
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08.03.2007 - 20:45
Graveheart
Well yes of course, I totally forgot about S&M. Thrash metal is a very riffy genre and anything symphonic is rather the opposite to this, so no wonder these two aren't mixed too often. Gothic thrash or symphonic metalcore have pretty much the same problem.
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09.03.2007 - 00:13
fire101
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Gangster rap and power metal. Never happening. Dont try it. Bad things will ensue. Like low rated albums.
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09.03.2007 - 01:32
Taktsekte
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Written by [user id=3104] on 09.03.2007 at 00:13

Gangster rap and power metal. Never happening. Dont try it.

Let me try, let me try! Uhh... "Yeah, come on... yo' bitch, feel da powah! Feel da powah o' da mighty dragon! Fight for glory, fight for honor, da honor o' da hood, man, yeah! I'll smack yo' face with my enchanted powah sword of dreamwinds, bitches!"

Failure u_u
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09.03.2007 - 01:42
fire101
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Written by Taktsekte on 09.03.2007 at 01:32

Written by [user id=3104] on 09.03.2007 at 00:13

Gangster rap and power metal. Never happening. Dont try it.

Let me try, let me try! Uhh... "Yeah, come on... yo' bitch, feel da powah! Feel da powah o' da mighty dragon! Fight for glory, fight for honor, da honor o' da hood, man, yeah! I'll smack yo' face with my enchanted powah sword of dreamwinds, bitches!"

Failure u_u

Lol. The thing is you gave it your best. Some things were just never meant to be.
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09.03.2007 - 04:53
Paganblood
The Aryaputra
Written by Graveheart on 08.03.2007 at 17:13

Written by Paganblood on 08.03.2007 at 15:16

Written by [user id=2084] on 08.03.2007 at 00:39

I think symphonic death metal wouldn't be that possible of a genre...I think it already exists...

Already exists? that would be great... do you know about any such bands?

Dark Lunacy would be one, their death metal is closer to gothenburg than extreme death though. And when Therion started to present symphonies in their death metal, I guess there is another one. I'm not sure which album is in question because I haven't listened to those released before Theli.

I must start searching for albums by those bands then...
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09.03.2007 - 05:00
Paganblood
The Aryaputra
Written by Graveheart on 08.03.2007 at 17:13

Written by Paganblood on 08.03.2007 at 15:16

Written by [user id=2084] on 08.03.2007 at 00:39

I think symphonic death metal wouldn't be that possible of a genre...I think it already exists...

Already exists? that would be great... do you know about any such bands?

Dark Lunacy would be one, their death metal is closer to gothenburg than extreme death though. And when Therion started to present symphonies in their death metal, I guess there is another one. I'm not sure which album is in question because I haven't listened to those released before Theli.

I must start searching for albums by those bands then...
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09.03.2007 - 05:09
Paganblood
The Aryaputra
@ whoever interested in symphonic death metal:
I searched metal archives for 'symphonic death metal and got 76 bands as result...however most of them were fusions with black metal and other metallic genres. Some of the bands which are pure symphonic death metal (or melodic)are as follows:
Hollenthon
Eternal tears of sorrow (they are SDM only from now onwards)
Abbadon (ger)
Summoner
Soul grind
Persefone
shadowseeds
king
xzoriath
bladhe
lykeum
parodie sacrass
varnas
criminal hate
nekrogoblikon
vehement
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11.03.2007 - 13:23
Valentin B
Iconoclast
dude, eternal tears of sorrow is anything but symphonic death metal man. they're like symphonic melodeath or meloblack or something, but symphonic death...no way!!
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11.03.2007 - 13:32
Valentin B
Iconoclast
Written by Zeraphine on 07.03.2007 at 15:39

disco and doom metal.. hmm.. i'd say that's "the most impossible" combo ever.

well, judas priest's early albums come close, although a perfect combination would be totally impossible
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12.03.2007 - 11:58
Zeraphine
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Written by Paganblood on 07.03.2007 at 17:01

Written by Zeraphine on 07.03.2007 at 15:39

disco and doom metal.. hmm.. i'd say that's "the most impossible" combo ever.

this is impossible! because disco is so 'joyful' whereas doom metal is depressive.

precisely.

Written by Valentin B on 11.03.2007 at 13:32

Written by Zeraphine on 07.03.2007 at 15:39

disco and doom metal.. hmm.. i'd say that's "the most impossible" combo ever.

well, judas priest's early albums come close, although a perfect combination would be totally impossible

well i'm not a fan of Judas Priest so i wouldn't know. it would be hilarious to hear such a band though. XD
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12.03.2007 - 23:14
Damnated
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Written by Valentin B on 29.01.2007 at 16:47

-jazz black metal(the technicality gap is incredible)

Ephel Duath, although they don't have anything to do with bm now. try La Rumeur des Chaines. http://www.myspace.com/larumeurdeschaines . you'll be surprised
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15.03.2007 - 19:32
HauntingNazareth
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Hmm, seems nobodys brought up the obvious of a punk-power metal. You cant possibly have the combination because punk relies on only three chords basically, while power relies on complex and melodic sounds.
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30.03.2007 - 19:33
CollisionInMind
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Written by [user id=22086] on 15.03.2007 at 19:32

Hmm, seems nobodys brought up the obvious of a punk-power metal. You cant possibly have the combination because punk relies on only three chords basically, while power relies on complex and melodic sounds.

It's called thrash metal

Some impossibilities I'd like to see come to fruition would include:
- Avant-Jazz and Grindcore
- Dub/Reggae and Thrash Metal
- Techno and Punk
- Black Metal and Rap
- Ska and Hardcore

You know, like Painkiller, Big D & The Kids Table, Atari Teenage Riot, Norselaw, and Bomb the Music Industry.

Forty years ago, combining punk rock with blues and progressive rock was impossible. Let us not forget that that combination manifested in the form of the NWOBHM.

I'm NOT saying that there are no impossibilities... But I am saying that accepting impossibilities will prevent them from becoming possible. Browsing these posts, yeah, there are some suggestions that I can't picture, but it's mostly a list of just stuff that hasn't happened yet, and I'm amused but not surprised at how many responses there are to proposed paradoxes that not only can exist, but already do.

Bands like Crotchduster, Spazztic Blurr, and Die Apokalyptischen Reiter are impossible.
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30.03.2007 - 20:22
HauntingNazareth
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Written by [user id=1455] on 30.03.2007 at 19:33

Written by [user id=22086] on 15.03.2007 at 19:32

Hmm, seems nobodys brought up the obvious of a punk-power metal. You cant possibly have the combination because punk relies on only three chords basically, while power relies on complex and melodic sounds.

It's called thrash metal

Some impossibilities I'd like to see come to fruition would include:
- Avant-Jazz and Grindcore
- Dub/Reggae and Thrash Metal
- Techno and Punk
- Black Metal and Rap
- Ska and Hardcore

You know, like Painkiller, Big D & The Kids Table, Atari Teenage Riot, Norselaw, and Bomb the Music Industry.

Forty years ago, combining punk rock with blues and progressive rock was impossible. Let us not forget that that combination manifested in the form of the NWOBHM.

I'm NOT saying that there are no impossibilities... But I am saying that accepting impossibilities will prevent them from becoming possible. Browsing these posts, yeah, there are some suggestions that I can't picture, but it's mostly a list of just stuff that hasn't happened yet, and I'm amused but not surprised at how many responses there are to proposed paradoxes that not only can exist, but already do.

Bands like Crotchduster, Spazztic Blurr, and Die Apokalyptischen Reiter are impossible.

I meant besides thrash metal. You cant have metal with only a 3 chord progression, and only that. You need more than that. So, on that level, you cant have punk-power metal. So, ha.
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30.03.2007 - 20:39
HauntingNazareth
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And to give another genre that is impossible, here are a few that I thought of:
Classical-Punk
Thrash Jazz?
Swing metal
Polka punk
Easy listening black metal... ?
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30.03.2007 - 21:56
CollisionInMind
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Written by [user id=22086] on 30.03.2007 at 20:22
I meant besides thrash metal. You cant have metal with only a 3 chord progression, and only that. You need more than that. So, on that level, you cant have punk-power metal. So, ha.

The only punk band I know of that does the three-chord thing is The Ramones. Would you like me to make a list of punk bands who don't? A punk band does not have to limit themselves to three chords. And then to say "besides thrash metal" is pretty much the same thing as saying "besides all of the countless examples of just this."

Written by [user id=22086] on 30.03.2007 at 20:39

And to give another genre that is impossible, here are a few that I thought of:
Classical-Punk
Thrash Jazz?
Swing metal
Polka punk
Easy listening black metal... ?

Well, as for thrash jazz, there's Alarum. I might also argue that Pestilence could fit in there, although they are in general definately a death metal band. I would also argue that a marriage of classical and punk would just yield some kind of metal, but to blend them and still keep the influences distinct would be extremely difficult, I think.

Swing metal I would certainly like to hear.

I'm not denying its possibility, but I'd like to hear a band that combines ska and old school death metal. I've heard ska-core and "sketal" of ska/thrash (See: Leftover Crack/Chocking Victim, Dancehall Satan), but not really death metal. Honestly, it might already exist, I hear New York has a significant ska/metal scene, but I'm very unfamiliar with it.
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30.03.2007 - 22:08
Valentin B
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Written by [user id=1455] on 30.03.2007 at 19:33

Some impossibilities I'd like to see come to fruition would include:
- Avant-Jazz and Grindcore
- Dub/Reggae and Thrash Metal
- Techno and Punk
- Black Metal and Rap
- Ska and Hardcore

techno punk isn't all that impossible imo. techno+old school punk, now that's hard to imagine, but with all the new "hi, my name is karl and i'm a punk...._|_" kids around, you never know...hardcore and ska fused isn't all that impossible, since both are based on slower rhythms, and that's basically the first thing you look at when trying to see if 2 genres can merge.

rap black metal is the most impossible one, mainly because of the lyrical themes, but i saw this rapper once, he got the title of "fastest rapper in the world" and he could have been even faster than a usual BM band would take(500 syllables in 50 or so seconds). but with "slower" BM songs like transilvanian hunger, rapping over the guitar rhythm, which is in the normal rap tempo range, wouldn't be impossible.
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08.04.2007 - 03:40
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Written by Damnated on 12.03.2007 at 23:14

Written by Valentin B on 29.01.2007 at 16:47

-jazz black metal(the technicality gap is incredible)

Ephel Duath, although they don't have anything to do with bm now. try La Rumeur des Chaines. http://www.myspace.com/larumeurdeschaines . you'll be surprised

Sigh and Solefald sometimes touch that territory, as well! I never liked saxophones until I heard them used in metal...
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26.04.2007 - 16:03
Sleep In Sorrow
Ghost Of The Sun
Disco doom impossible?
Statik Majik era Cathedral, anyone?
Just watch this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=0bU7tf83mBM

As for a really impossible genre... I can't imagine at all something like Power Sludge Metal. o.O or maybe Power Drone, for something even worse.
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26.04.2007 - 19:47
Kap'N Korrupt
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Power sludge metal wouldn't be to hard to do...lots of feedback and atmosphere combined with epic themes and speedy riffs? It could work...as for power drone, it would be easy to have a speedy drone with some high clean vocals and epic lyrical themes...
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