Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck ElitePosts: 40071 |
Totally agreed.
My number three of the year.
Btw, special mention should also go out to the great cover of Steppenwolf's Desperation.
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Christian metal, what a fucking joke
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Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 00:25
Christian metal, what a fucking joke
Anti-Christian metal what a fucking joke,
Metal is like life there's a place for everything there.
And even though you might not apprve of its message this is easily one of the best albums that was released this year.
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Ill give it a listen, but i hate music that is tainted with religious propaganda (including anti-christian metal)
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Dane Train Beers & Kilts ElitePosts: 8902 |
19.12.2010 - 01:07Rating: 10
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 00:25
Christian metal, what a fucking joke
Why do you feel that Christian Metal is a joke?
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Im not gonna start arguing with you since your listed occupation is: Minister...
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Written by Dane Train on 19.12.2010 at 01:07
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 00:25
Christian metal, what a fucking joke
Why do you feel that Christian Metal is a joke?
Christian metal IS a joke. This is because any metal that takes on a religious form is screwing it's self. "Anti-christian" is not a religious faith or belief, it is a lack of one and the following criticism towards those who do hold faiths. We all know that holding a belief is different than not holding one. The holder is then responsible for justifying that belief. The same thing happens in metal or any art form. Putting a religious label over any piece of art put's that piece of art into a very special category worthy of any criticism or praise people may throw at it.
Anyway, be it religion or politics (pro or against), it always gets odd when added to art and music.
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19.12.2010 - 02:30Rating: 10
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 02:16
Im not gonna start arguing with you since your listed occupation is: Minister...
Who said anything about an argument? I am just simply interested in your perspective on this subject. I stay away from arguing, it is a negative action and I attempt to only fill my life with positive actions.
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Going back to the album...BIG disappointment. Maybe an 8 out of 10, if that. Definitely not going in my top 20 this year.
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Written by [user id=100467] on 19.12.2010 at 02:58
Going back to the album...BIG disappointment. Maybe an 8 out of 10, if that. Definitely not going in my top 20 this year.
what did you find disappointing about it? Especially compared to their previous two. Cause the way you state come across to me you liked their other works.
I am really interested in your reason why because you're the first person I come across who finds it a disappointment. That implies you were expecting it to be good. Loads of people dislike it but then again they never liked this sort of doom.
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No, I mean...I checked it out because of all the hype on Metal Storm about it, but it just didn't meet my expectations. I think it was the dash of stoner metal that kind of stood out for me...If doom ever colludes with any other genre, I would prefer it to be death. But I disagree with the reviewer; while the rhythm section was solid, the melodies were lacking in many instances, particularly Dayspring.
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Btw imo there is not much stoner in here at all. It is all just pure unadultered traditional doom.
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Christian metal, what a fucking joke.
Satanic metal, what a fucking joke.
Pagan metal, what a fucking joke.
Scientologist metal, what a fucking joke.
Mormon metal, what a fucking joke.
Objectivist metal, what a fucking joke.
etc. etc. bitch, bitch.
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Written by Wes on 19.12.2010 at 02:20
Written by Dane Train on 19.12.2010 at 01:07
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 00:25
Christian metal, what a fucking joke
Why do you feel that Christian Metal is a joke?
Christian metal IS a joke. This is because any metal that takes on a religious form is screwing it's self. "Anti-christian" is not a religious faith or belief, it is a lack of one and the following criticism towards those who do hold faiths. We all know that holding a belief is different than not holding one. The holder is then responsible for justifying that belief. The same thing happens in metal or any art form. Putting a religious label over any piece of art put's that piece of art into a very special category worthy of any criticism or praise people may throw at it.
Anyway, be it religion or politics (pro or against), it always gets odd when added to art and music.
i no rite? I mean have you seen the Sistine Chapel? Michelangelo was such a tool for letting religion get in the way of his art. Keep that lame shit outta there.
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warrior_of_ice
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Getting back to the album- it sounds like garage rock to me. not impressed to be honest
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From what I listened in their myspace , the music is not that special
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I think Doom Metal is quite great place for expressing one's faith... the whole longing for God theme or looking for Him or sharing regrets and asking forgiveness and all this. I mean there might be quite a lot of sorrow in a Christian life (which doesn't necessarily result in Doom Metal I know). I am listening to the album right now and it's like old Candlemass to me (I don't know, maybe it's different, but for some reason I think of Candlemass or Cathedral ). So what difference does it make whether the dudes are Christians or not.
It's music!
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Definitely checking this one.
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It's an okay album, but what makes it special is that it's the first veritable example of power ballad doom. Honestly, I thought I was listening to some 80s hard rock band trying their hand at doom. :p
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19.12.2010 - 20:58Rating: 9
Thanks for the review Dane, this is such a solid album from beginning to end, and really succeeds in putting the listener in a certain mood. Each song doesn't just appear, but it develops within the flow of the album. "Dayspring" is an excellent choice, and a great companion to my favorite in "Timeless Hearts" Top notch musicianship, and without a doubt agree on your ten for their performance here.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.12.2010 at 05:04
Btw imo there is not much stoner in here at all. It is all just pure unadultered traditional doom.
Dude, there is tons of stoner here
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20.12.2010 - 02:06Rating: 8
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Wow. I just checked their myspace after reading Marcel and dismal's Dutch Doom Days article. The production is so cool
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Written by MetalManic on 19.12.2010 at 22:27
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.12.2010 at 05:04
Btw imo there is not much stoner in here at all. It is all just pure unadultered traditional doom.
Dude, there is tons of stoner here
I beg to differ. Soulful bluesy doom does not equal stoner.
Place Of Skulls clearly plays blues infested traditional doom and not stoner infested.
It's like saying Black Sabbath, Withcfinder General, Saint Vitus, Revelation have loads of stoner in their music, which imo is also ridiculous.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.12.2010 at 07:20
Written by MetalManic on 19.12.2010 at 22:27
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.12.2010 at 05:04
Btw imo there is not much stoner in here at all. It is all just pure unadultered traditional doom.
Dude, there is tons of stoner here
I see your point and actually agree. I never really thought of this but stoner, as do many other genres I suppose, have some deep blues roots.
I beg to differ. Soulful bluesy doom does not equal stoner.
Place Of Skulls clearly plays blues infested traditional doom and not stoner infested.
It's like saying Black Sabbath, Withcfinder General, Saint Vitus, Revelation have loads of stoner in their music, which imo is also ridiculous.
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Written by [user id=6449] on 19.12.2010 at 07:10
Written by Wes on 19.12.2010 at 02:20
Written by Dane Train on 19.12.2010 at 01:07
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 00:25
Christian metal, what a fucking joke
Why do you feel that Christian Metal is a joke?
Christian metal IS a joke. This is because any metal that takes on a religious form is screwing it's self. "Anti-christian" is not a religious faith or belief, it is a lack of one and the following criticism towards those who do hold faiths. We all know that holding a belief is different than not holding one. The holder is then responsible for justifying that belief. The same thing happens in metal or any art form. Putting a religious label over any piece of art put's that piece of art into a very special category worthy of any criticism or praise people may throw at it.
Anyway, be it religion or politics (pro or against), it always gets odd when added to art and music.
i no rite? I mean have you seen the Sistine Chapel? Michelangelo was such a tool for letting religion get in the way of his art. Keep that lame shit outta there.
Let the records show that Metal will never embrace religion.
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Written by [user id=101272] on 20.12.2010 at 23:05
Written by [user id=6449] on 19.12.2010 at 07:10
Written by Wes on 19.12.2010 at 02:20
Written by Dane Train on 19.12.2010 at 01:07
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 00:25
Christian metal, what a fucking joke
Why do you feel that Christian Metal is a joke?
Christian metal IS a joke. This is because any metal that takes on a religious form is screwing it's self. "Anti-christian" is not a religious faith or belief, it is a lack of one and the following criticism towards those who do hold faiths. We all know that holding a belief is different than not holding one. The holder is then responsible for justifying that belief. The same thing happens in metal or any art form. Putting a religious label over any piece of art put's that piece of art into a very special category worthy of any criticism or praise people may throw at it.
Anyway, be it religion or politics (pro or against), it always gets odd when added to art and music.
i no rite? I mean have you seen the Sistine Chapel? Michelangelo was such a tool for letting religion get in the way of his art. Keep that lame shit outta there.
Let the records show that Metal will never embrace religion.
mmmand yet you have Megadeth as the first band in your fav bandlist
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Who gives a rats ass that this is a christian band??
Becoming the Archetype and Mortification are christian and awesome bands.
The problem is that imo this PoS album sucks.
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Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 19.12.2010 at 05:04
Btw imo there is not much stoner in here at all. It is all just pure unadultered traditional doom.
I can see why people would think there's stoner in it though, the production and riff sound are seriously hazy at times, not to mention those psychedelic solo's. The vocals and doomier riffs bring it back to closer to trad doom though, I agree.
It's great stuff anyway, no mistake.
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Dane Train Beers & Kilts ElitePosts: 8902 |
30.12.2010 - 00:19Rating: 10
Written by [user id=101272] on 20.12.2010 at 23:05
Let the records show that Metal will never embrace religion.
But it has. So I think your understanding of Metal history and culture may be very flawed.
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Written by Dane Train on 19.12.2010 at 02:30
Written by warrior_of_ice on 19.12.2010 at 02:16
Im not gonna start arguing with you since your listed occupation is: Minister...
Who said anything about an argument? I am just simply interested in your perspective on this subject. I stay away from arguing, it is a negative action and I attempt to only fill my life with positive actions.
Sorry. Have to jump in. You're generalizing. Argument can be very positive. I understand that you are a Christian--all of your arguments are 'destined' to end with the idea of god--but that shouldn't prevent you from seeing the benefits of thinking critically and rationally. To steer away from argument is to invite unreason. But I'm preaching to a minister.
Enjoying the album, by the way.
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