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Written by [user id=105293] on 22.09.2010 at 02:18
Written by RavenKing on 22.09.2010 at 00:25
Funny, how opinions differ. I find NIME an extremely boring album with barely any good moment. And those interludes are utterly pointless.
Just one of those interludes is worth more than some other band's entire discography. It's not easy to make Morgoth and Sauron sound convincing, yet they did it. The effort that went into making the dialogue in War of Wrath sound good is greater then the effort that went into the entirety of Kamelot's new album.
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I've never been able to listen to this entire album without getting bored out of my mind.
That would describe every Opeth album I have ever had the great misfortune of listening to.
The really funny thing that everything i heard form BG bored me to death , while Opeth is my fav band
Maybe it is a mutual thing between prog and power fans.
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Written by advent on 25.09.2010 at 04:05
The really funny thing that everything i heard form BG bored me to death , while Opeth is my fav band
Maybe it is a mutual thing between prog and power fans.
Oh, I love prog, believe me. I just don't like drawn-out, over-written songs that don't pay off.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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25.09.2010 - 12:38Rating: 9
Most albums with constant interludes, they are an annoyance more than anything else. "Testimony Of The Ancients" by Pestilence is one of a tiny amount of albums where the many interludes actually add to the enjoyment of the album. Aside from "Impure", thats a stupid interlude.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.09.2010 at 12:38
Most albums with constant interludes, they are an annoyance more than anything else. "Testimony Of
Agreed. Problem is interludes disrupt the flow and pace of an album. In Nime's case, it reaches a degree at which the album doesn't have any flow.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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25.09.2010 - 16:59Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 25.09.2010 at 16:23 Agreed. Problem is interludes disrupt the flow and pace of an album. In Nime's case, it reaches a degree at which the album doesn't have any flow.
Even without the interludes, NIME would be a very uneven album to me. In that albums' case, it just adds to the problem. It just makes the small amount of good moments on the album seem even more rare. Interludes should add to the album, but in most cases, they only disrupt it. At least for me they do. lol
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RavenKing
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Written by Angelic Storm on 25.09.2010 at 16:59
Written by RavenKing on 25.09.2010 at 16:23 Agreed. Problem is interludes disrupt the flow and pace of an album. In Nime's case, it reaches a degree at which the album doesn't have any flow.
Even without the interludes, NIME would be a very uneven album to me. In that albums' case, it just adds to the problem. It just makes the small amount of good moments on the album seem even more rare. Interludes should add to the album, but in most cases, they only disrupt it. At least for me they do. lol
Exactly what I had in mind. I mentioned already that, imo, this album has only 2 real good songs: When Sorrow Sang and Mirror Mirror. The good moments are very scarce among all the useless rubbish this album contains.
But the interludes make the wait between the good moments last even longer, indeed.
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Vikcen Metálico
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25.09.2010 - 18:00Rating: 10
Well, i would say awesome interludes.
I remember other record with very good interludes too, Epica by Kamelot .
Imo, these interludes contributes very well for a magic atmosphere.
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How many effing songs do they have with "tanelorn" in the title?? that aside, im definitely gonna get this once i acquire internet in my cave.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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26.09.2010 - 04:19Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 25.09.2010 at 17:14 Exactly what I had in mind. I mentioned already that, imo, this album has only 2 real good songs: When Sorrow Sang and Mirror Mirror. The good moments are very scarce among all the useless rubbish this album contains.
But the interludes make the wait between the good moments last even longer, indeed.
Although as you know, I like more than 2 songs on the album, I still think less than half of the non-interlude songs are actually great. But your last point, I do completely agree with.
And nobody can accuse me of having that opinion cos of a bias against later Blind Guardian, seeing as I love most of ANATO and ATEOT. lol
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Written by Angelic Storm on 26.09.2010 at 04:19
And nobody can accuse me of having that opinion cos of a bias against later Blind Guardian, seeing as I love most of ANATO and ATEOT. lol
I'm not a fan of later Blind Guardian (though I really like their first four albums) but I would take ANATO or the new album over NIME any day. Those two albums are not my style but they're not bad at all. I don't like ATITM at all, however.
ANATO's biggest problem is it's way too layered, imo, to the point it makes the music hard to follow. Maybe I think like that because I prefer when Hansi 'sings alone' than when it's some kind of choir with fifty Hansi's piled over each other, if you know what I mean.
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But everybody's only looking out for themselves
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26.09.2010 - 13:59Rating: 9
Written by LeChron James on 26.09.2010 at 02:28
How many effing songs do they have with "tanelorn" in the title?? that aside, im definitely gonna get this once i acquire internet in my cave.
Errr, two?
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Written by Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk on 26.09.2010 at 13:59
Written by LeChron James on 26.09.2010 at 02:28
How many effing songs do they have with "tanelorn" in the title?? that aside, im definitely gonna get this once i acquire internet in my cave.
Errr, two?
Perhaps but they sometimes plug the word 'Tanelorn' in songs, without it being in the title. I'm sure I heard the word in a few other songs.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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27.09.2010 - 01:44Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 26.09.2010 at 04:56 I'm not a fan of later Blind Guardian (though I really like their first four albums) but I would take ANATO or the new album over NIME any day. Those two albums are not my style but they're not bad at all. I don't like ATITM at all, however.
ANATO's biggest problem is it's way too layered, imo, to the point it makes the music hard to follow. Maybe I think like that because I prefer when Hansi 'sings alone' than when it's some kind of choir with fifty Hansi's piled over each other, if you know what I mean.
IMO ATITM has its moments, but its not a great album, a bit like NIME. As for ANATO, I dont mind the layering, although I have heard other people criticising that as well. I have heard Hansi saying though that songs off the album are usually not played live, because obviously the layering cannot be replicated in a live setting. So in that sense, I do have a problem with it. I have heard a version of "The Soulforged" live, and it really suffers, because a lot of the vocal parts are obviously left out of it. I like it on the album, but I guess there is a negative side to it... lol
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Written by Angelic Storm on 27.09.2010 at 01:44
Written by RavenKing on 26.09.2010 at 04:56 I'm not a fan of later Blind Guardian (though I really like their first four albums) but I would take ANATO or the new album over NIME any day. Those two albums are not my style but they're not bad at all. I don't like ATITM at all, however.
ANATO's biggest problem is it's way too layered, imo, to the point it makes the music hard to follow. Maybe I think like that because I prefer when Hansi 'sings alone' than when it's some kind of choir with fifty Hansi's piled over each other, if you know what I mean.
IMO ATITM has its moments, but its not a great album, a bit like NIME. As for ANATO, I dont mind the layering, although I have heard other people criticising that as well. I have heard Hansi saying though that songs off the album are usually not played live, because obviously the layering cannot be replicated in a live setting. So in that sense, I do have a problem with it. I have heard a version of "The Soulforged" live, and it really suffers, because a lot of the vocal parts are obviously left out of it. I like it on the album, but I guess there is a negative side to it... lol
That's what happens when you layer music. It becomes some kind of studio trick hard to duplicate live. Bands need to use lots of back up tapes.
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Angelic Storm Melodious
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27.09.2010 - 01:54Rating: 9
Written by RavenKing on 27.09.2010 at 01:49 That's what happens when you layer music. It becomes some kind of studio trick hard to duplicate live. Bands need to use lots of back up tapes.
Im not really a fan of bands using back up tapes live. So in a way, I prefer to hear the song stripped down live, rather than having the back up tapes. The problem is, Hansi seemed a bit lost when singing the song (The Soulforged) live. Lots of words were being left out, and he was obviously struggling a bit with it. From that, I can see why they are reluctant to play those songs live, which sucks because I love most of that album.
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Written by Angelic Storm on 27.09.2010 at 01:54
Im not really a fan of bands using back up tapes live. So in a way, I prefer to hear the song stripped down live, rather than having the back up tapes. The problem is, Hansi seemed a bit lost when singing the song (The Soulforged) live. Lots of words were being left out, and he was obviously struggling a bit with it. From that, I can see why they are reluctant to play those songs live, which sucks because I love most of that album.
I don't care for the live aspect, so the reason I don't like much layered music has nothing to do with this. It's just that I prefer music to be more 'direct' and straightforward, if you know what I mean.
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Written by [user id=105293] on 25.09.2010 at 11:56
Written by advent on 25.09.2010 at 04:05
The really funny thing that everything i heard form BG bored me to death , while Opeth is my fav band
Maybe it is a mutual thing between prog and power fans.
Oh, I love prog, believe me. I just don't like drawn-out, over-written songs that don't pay off.
Actually, Opeth rule. I don't know why it took me so long to hear it.
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ThyKingdomScvm
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Amazing album! A huge step up from A Twist in the Myth
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CyberSymphony Ollie
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16.01.2011 - 21:14Rating: 9
I am really getting into this album, the orchestral parts in particular are awesome.
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Timmeh Dudeman
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Sacred Worlds, Oh god my mind is asploded!
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Glaucus
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12.09.2011 - 19:05Rating: 10
Man, this album got a lot of comments, haha.
If anything, I like everything that Blind Guardian has done, everything from Battalions of Fear to this album. Every one has a bit of something I like.
This album, in particular, was gripping since I had been anticipating a new Blind Guardian album since A Twist In The Myth. So, when At The Edge Of Time came out, I hurried out to get it. Popped it into my car's CD player, and was floored by Sacred Worlds.
Probably one of the happiest days I could remember. Bahaha.
Anyway, I like this album for a number of reasons. For one thing, the emphasis on The Wheel of Time book series in the songs Ride Into Obsession and Wheel of Time were great, musically and lyrically. If anything, Blind Guardian are absolutely fantastic at catching what a story should feel and sound like, and that's always entertaining to listen to.
Though, a song that I saw was not mentioned is Control The Divine. A totally awesome concept! And the instrumentation, excellent.
Really, I can't get enough of this album, haha.
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Oh man, this album is awesome, the second best BG album so far (only loses to NIME), obviously.
Deserves at least a 9.0.
Quote: Even without the interludes, NIME would be a very uneven album to me. In that albums' case, it just adds to the problem. It just makes the small amount of good moments on the album seem even more rare. Interludes should add to the album, but in most cases, they only disrupt it. At least for me they do. lol
What the..
All the interludes are perfect! The start where Melkor talks to Sauron... epic.
The album is FULL of great moments. Into the Storm where Melkor destroy the trees, Nightfall where the elves cry for their lost and Fëanor rebels, Curse of Fëanor where he goes on in his revenge, Blood Tears about Fingon rescuing Maedhros, Mirror Mirror about Turgon building the city of Gondolin with Ulmo, Noldor when Fingolfin crosses Helcaraxë, Time Stands Still when Fingolfin challenges Melkor.
Every time I listen to this songs I remember the story, it's so fucking epic...
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jhook
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30.09.2011 - 04:27Rating: 9
This album is epic, not exactly the best thing for getting laid though
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Pazu
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02.10.2011 - 16:52Rating: 9
Written by jhook on 30.09.2011 at 04:27
This album is epic, not exactly the best thing for getting laid though
Are you speaking from experience? ^^
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02.10.2011 - 17:19Rating: 9
Written by Pazu on 02.10.2011 at 16:52
Written by jhook on 30.09.2011 at 04:27
This album is epic, not exactly the best thing for getting laid though
Are you speaking from experience? ^^
im mostly just saying its not the best thing to talk about liking while in the company of attractive women
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Zmaj Ognjeni Vuk To Mega Therion
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06.10.2011 - 00:29Rating: 9
Speak for yourself, my gf loves BG and she's hot
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