Ya know, come to think of it, this album kinda makes sense... Deathcore is in some ways extreme metal's form of dance music, with so much emphasis put on breakdowns that serve no other purpose than to get teenagers fuckin shit up in da pit. Combining breakdowns with electronic dance music elements seems only natural, although the quality, or lack of, is questionable...

Written by [user id=111774] on 06.11.2011 at 07:06
although the quality, or lack of, is questionable...

The lack of quality isn't questionable.

No better than Bring Me the Horizon's There Is a Hell... if you ask me.

Written by Troy Killjoy on 25.10.2011 at 00:40

Written by Vombatus on 24.10.2011 at 20:45
I think this could have been half decent if deathcore elements were replaced with death metal.

Do you know what a Morbid Angel is.

lulz

Written by Troy Killjoy on 06.11.2011 at 07:44
No better than Bring Me the Horizon's There Is a Hell... if you ask me.

I like that album in the meaning of "I would probably buy it someday"-kind of "like".

Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.11.2011 at 13:27
I like that album in the meaning of "I would probably buy it someday"-kind of "like".

How you like this and not The Browning is beyond me.

What do you think about Asking Alexandria?

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2011 at 20:03

Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.11.2011 at 13:27
I like that album in the meaning of "I would probably buy it someday"-kind of "like".

How you like this and not The Browning is beyond me.
What do you think about Asking Alexandria?

AA is shit too.
There is a difference, Troy. You are wrong about BMTH. They have never put emphasis on electronic parts. In fact I only remember few moments from that album to have some electronic stuff but not enough to stop calling them for what they are: Just deathcore. I do remember their second album had one bonus cd containing a remix dubstep version of the album but that's about it. Doesn't really count because it's just an alternative version of the album, not the original sound.

I can totally understand that everyone despise BMTH and I actually agree with almost all of them. For some reason still unknown to me, I like them even though I deeply dislike them as artists for the stupid interviews I've read. Probably the only "guilty pleasure" I ever had as I'm usually a shamless bastard when it comes to music.
While I do understand the "why the hell do you like them"-question... I don't understand your question as they definitely don't play the same thing as AA and the browning.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.11.2011 at 20:31

Written by Troy Killjoy on 16.11.2011 at 20:03

Written by X-Ray Rod on 16.11.2011 at 13:27
I like that album in the meaning of "I would probably buy it someday"-kind of "like".

How you like this and not The Browning is beyond me.
What do you think about Asking Alexandria?

AA is shit too.
There is a difference, Troy. You are wrong about BMTH. They have never put emphasis on electronic parts. In fact I only remember few moments from that album to have some electronic stuff but not enough to stop calling them for what they are: Just deathcore. I do remember their second album had one bonus cd containing a remix dubstep version of the album but that's about it. Doesn't really count because it's just an alternative version of the album, not the original sound.

I can totally understand that everyone despise BMTH and I actually agree with almost all of them. For some reason still unknown to me, I like them even though I deeply dislike them as artists for the stupid interviews I've read. Probably the only "guilty pleasure" I ever had as I'm usually a shamless bastard when it comes to music.
While I do understand the "why the hell do you like them"-question... I don't understand your question as they definitely don't play the same thing as AA and the browning.

Well, if you like electronic hints in core, you should check out Heaven Shall Burn its subtle, it took me a few listens to hear it.


"And then there's Asking Alexandria... For the record, Nobody ever asked Alexandria anything ever again" - Troy.

that quote will be forever in my head.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 04.01.2012 at 20:11
Well, if you like electronic hints in core, you should check out Heaven Shall Burn its subtle, it took me a few listens to hear it.

Hhahah thanks but I know them already, two of their cds in my pc and I'm thinking about buying some stuff. They are one of the few metalcore bands that actually know how metalcore should sound like.

Written by X-Ray Rod on 04.01.2012 at 20:17

Written by Boxcar Willy on 04.01.2012 at 20:11
Well, if you like electronic hints in core, you should check out Heaven Shall Burn its subtle, it took me a few listens to hear it.

Hhahah thanks but I know them already, two of their cds in my pc and I'm thinking about buying some stuff. They are one of the few metalcore bands that actually know how metalcore should sound like.

I kind of thought you would know about them, its not like their underground or anything

I must honestly admit that this album sounds decent to me.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 04.01.2012 at 20:11
Well, if you like electronic hints in core, you should check out Heaven Shall Burn its subtle, it took me a few listens to hear it.

Can you give us an example maybe? When I think Heaven Shall Burn, I think of "We are the final... RESIIISSTAAAANCE!!" ... never noticed any electronics.

Written by beyondtehdarksun on 07.01.2012 at 10:35

I must honestly admit that this album sounds decent to me.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 04.01.2012 at 20:11
Well, if you like electronic hints in core, you should check out Heaven Shall Burn its subtle, it took me a few listens to hear it.

Can you give us an example maybe? When I think Heaven Shall Burn, I think of "We are the final... RESIIISSTAAAANCE!!" ... never noticed any electronics.

check "invictus"

Written by Boxcar Willy on 09.01.2012 at 01:57


check "invictus"

I honestly can't recall much electronics on Invictus aside from the trance elements in Combat. But it is not my most played HSB disc so I might be wrong, maybe this is a divine sign that I need to spin it again!

On topic, for the first time ever I listened fully through this album. I was surprised. Pleasantly.

I really do not understand the huge negative backlash this album is generating.
I like good deathcore and bad deathcore is mainly bad because it is just absofuckinglutely boring. It often ha a good rythmic structure not so surprising seeing how much deathcore concentrates on rhythm but those long ass slow and heavy breakdowns are not filled with anything. And it makes it boring since you cannot make enjoyable music out of rhythmic elements alone (and breakdowns ARE rhythmic elements).

What this band does is to fill in the lack of leads with synths which prevents it from getting boring the same way I described above. It is a logical step since deathcore, as a whole is characterised by a really strong rhythmic base, and the electronic genres used on this album have much more interesting melodies than their repetative beats.

Personally I don't see anything wrong with that since synths are just as music as leads are so I don't care if it lacks good leads if the synths compensate for it well enough which they do.

Still, the album does suffer from being a bit stale in the long run.

Now what I can't decide is if I should rate this with a 6 or a 7.

I'm reveiwing this when I get home

Last time I impulse buy metal albums. I still think "What the fuck am I supposed to make of this?" every time I try to listen to it. Then again, never been into death metal vocals or electronic music, so this one had an uphill struggle from the start when I found out what it was. I'll just say "Not my kind of thing".

Written by Absak on 11.10.2011 at 09:44

Earache have become very literal about their name.

héhé

still don't get why they signed this band... still for what it is it's not to bad ... I guess.

Written by Uldreth on 13.01.2012 at 00:07
I really do not understand the huge negative backlash this album is generating.

I understand if people like it... but I think it's hella easy to understand why someone would hate this as well. I'm gonna steal something that Joe said:

Quote:
If you took away the -core aspects of this, which are wholly incompatible with everything else, this would be pretty listenable on a cheese-fest level.

I'm a bit more critical about it than Joe but the content it's actually the same: The deathcore parts suck and do not mix that well with trance (or whatever people want to call it). The electronic stuff is just in the ok area. Combined... It just sounds wrong to me. Might give it another listening just beause I'm a masochistic idiot though.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 29.02.2012 at 21:28

I'm reveiwing this when I get home

One year later....