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Always entertaining when people find a review objectively false when it doesn't align with their subjective opinion regarding the art in question. To object to the technical merit of a written piece is one thing, but to reject it merely on the basis of a rating that is too high/low doesn't reflect well on the intelligence of its reader.
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blackmamba
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13.02.2014 - 01:50Rating: 9
Written by Troy Killjoy on 13.02.2014 at 01:08
Written by blackmamba on 13.02.2014 at 01:07 6??? hahahaha. Get yourself a new set of ears pal, maybe then you'll be able to write a decent review
I think the review is actually well-written, but given your views on this album I can see why you dislike the rating here.
It doesn't matter if it's well written or not. When you rate an album, the purpose of the review is to justify that rating, and if the reviewer happens to have a poor taste in music, the least important thing is how well he writes. You can have the best writing ability in the world, but if you rate an album like The Satanist a 6.0, maybe you shouldn't be writing reviews.
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Unhealer Eclecticist
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13.02.2014 - 02:04Rating: 9
Written by blackmamba on 13.02.2014 at 01:50
It doesn't matter if it's well written or not. When you rate an album, the purpose of the review is to justify that rating, and if the reviewer happens to have a poor taste in music, the least important thing is how well he writes. You can have the best writing ability in the world, but if you rate an album like The Satanist a 6.0, maybe you shouldn't be writing reviews.
Can't believe I just read that. Do you understand that both the quality of a reviewer's writing and the taste for music are completely subjective? There's no such thing as poor taste in music.
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blackmamba
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13.02.2014 - 02:39Rating: 9
Written by Unhealer on 13.02.2014 at 02:04
Written by blackmamba on 13.02.2014 at 01:50
It doesn't matter if it's well written or not. When you rate an album, the purpose of the review is to justify that rating, and if the reviewer happens to have a poor taste in music, the least important thing is how well he writes. You can have the best writing ability in the world, but if you rate an album like The Satanist a 6.0, maybe you shouldn't be writing reviews.
Can't believe I just read that. Do you understand that both the quality of a reviewer's writing and the taste for music are completely subjective? There's no such thing as poor taste in music.
Then don't rate the albums, describe the songs, give opinions about the production values, compare the album to the artist's older material, do what you want, but don't rate it, don't give it a number, because like you said it's all subjective. However, there are some albums that are praised by most, and that is the case here, so when you find a guy who rates an album a 6 and practically every other serious reviewer and the majority of fans rate it from 8 to 9.5, you definitely can see something is not clicking.
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Coolingsrock
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13.02.2014 - 03:07Rating: 7
Well there you have it. Case Closed.
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BitterCOld The Ancient One AdminPosts: 15289 |
13.02.2014 - 03:43Rating: 7
Frankly, I'll take his six over the MS score.
By taking the time to write multiple reviews it's easier to get an idea where the author comes from.
People just clicking 1->10 means nothing to me. The ratings you cite are garbage. As noted, it's fanbois overrating it, which will be countered by those who don't immediately swoon at anything associated with Nergal rating it more rationally when they've bothered to check it out.
Finally, the forgotten step in deadone's plan... if it is still at the top, it'll get tanked by a bunch of people who'll score it 1 to sandbag it's score in the annual rank.
As for the album, I'll be sure to check it out, but whenever. no burning desire. I think Pyroleprechaun said it best a couple years ago somewhere 'round here. Behemoth is like the Chinese food of DM. You listen to it, enjoy it, and 30 minutes later forget all about it.
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Quote: The Satanist feels a lot like a bunch of "Lucifer"s.
That's disappointing. If this is true it'll probably be in the 5-7 range for me.
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R'Vannith ghedengi ElitePosts: 3099 |
Written by blackmamba on 13.02.2014 at 02:39
Written by Unhealer on 13.02.2014 at 02:04
Written by blackmamba on 13.02.2014 at 01:50
It doesn't matter if it's well written or not. When you rate an album, the purpose of the review is to justify that rating, and if the reviewer happens to have a poor taste in music, the least important thing is how well he writes. You can have the best writing ability in the world, but if you rate an album like The Satanist a 6.0, maybe you shouldn't be writing reviews.
Can't believe I just read that. Do you understand that both the quality of a reviewer's writing and the taste for music are completely subjective? There's no such thing as poor taste in music.
Then don't rate the albums, describe the songs, give opinions about the production values, compare the album to the artist's older material, do what you want, but don't rate it, don't give it a number, because like you said it's all subjective. However, there are some albums that are praised by most, and that is the case here, so when you find a guy who rates an album a 6 and practically every other serious reviewer and the majority of fans rate it from 8 to 9.5, you definitely can see something is not clicking.
You seem to be distinguishing the number and rating given here as an objective statement, as opposed to and something distinct from the subjective written assessment of the music. This is inaccurate. The number 6 is a initial indicator of where the reviewer stands with their assessment of a particular piece of music on a scale from 1 to 10 based upon the ample explanation given in writing. The latter leads to the former; the review itself seeks to justify the number or rating given.
This review is serious because it makes a personal and clearly well reasoned assessment of the music in question, and applies a rating to such an assessment accordingly.
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Mattybu
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Written by blackmamba on 13.02.2014 at 01:50
It doesn't matter if it's well written or not. When you rate an album, the purpose of the review is to justify that rating, and if the reviewer happens to have a poor taste in music, the least important thing is how well he writes. You can have the best writing ability in the world, but if you rate an album like The Satanist a 6.0, maybe you shouldn't be writing reviews.
Who are you to decide who has a good or bad taste in music?
On another note, threads like this are what make me lean towards no numbers... Even if people read a negative review they disagree with (I would bargain a good bunch of the whiners got to whining straight after seeing the score though) if there's no number to disagree with I would think it would foster more interesting conversation about the album itself rather than just "wow only a 6 i would have giveing this album like 10 million points of score reviewer u are dumb and have bad tastes". People would still bitch though don't get me wrong.
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Ocean Sage
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13.02.2014 - 06:19Rating: 10
Worst review ever. Metalstorm please remove this troll trash. It's disgraceful and I'd hate it if someone saw this review and decided not to give this amazing album a chance.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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13.02.2014 - 06:37Rating: 9
No, not the worst review ever. There have been many a lot worse than this. The review is okay, regardless of whether you agree with the wording or the score given. Personally, I think the album deserves a bit better score than 6.0 but if the reviewer only rates it as that, fair enough then. The overall rating by those who have voted has it much higher. I've only listened to the album about four times, so still trying to make my mind up on a score. I think it will be closer to an 8 for me.
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
13.02.2014 - 07:09Rating: 6
Written by Ocean Sage on 13.02.2014 at 06:19
Worst review ever. Metalstorm please remove this troll trash. It's disgraceful and I'd hate it if someone saw this review and decided not to give this amazing album a chance.
ooh yeah, tell me more about your feelings, mmmmmmmmmm
Maybe try elaborating on those strong opinions of yours. Otherwise, chances are HIGH no one will care what you think here.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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13.02.2014 - 07:16Rating: 9
Written by wormdrink414 on 13.02.2014 at 07:09
Written by Ocean Sage on 13.02.2014 at 06:19
Worst review ever. Metalstorm please remove this troll trash. It's disgraceful and I'd hate it if someone saw this review and decided not to give this amazing album a chance.
ooh yeah, tell me more about your feelings, mmmmmmmmmm
Maybe try elaborating on those strong opinions of yours. Otherwise, chances are HIGH no one will care what you think here.
hey, where did you get a pic of my g/friend from?
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
13.02.2014 - 07:18Rating: 6
Written by Ace Frawley on 13.02.2014 at 07:16
hey, where did you get a pic of my g/friend from?
You mean my girlfriend?
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Seriously, if anyone is ever pissed off on any review, just write down your own review or post your opinion in details and present your own impression of the album without getting too comfortable with words like "u suck because you gave the album a 6.0". Not only you're contributing to the discussion in a better, more reliable way, you're also paving the way for self-expression, for heaven's sake.
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6106 |
13.02.2014 - 08:48Rating: 9
Written by wormdrink414 on 12.02.2014 at 22:33
(I shit on In the Absence ov Light, but when it bangs back into gear after the spoken-word stuff it's not bad at all),
Quote: "Lucifer" is boring, but goddamn is "Shemhamforash" a neck breaker
Oh well.
"boring 'cause slow"
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Yojimbo
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13.02.2014 - 09:12Rating: 9
I disagree with the review. I enjoyed this album much more than their other recent albums. I don't consider myself a huge fan of Behemoth. I was into Satanica and Thelema6 quite a bit for a few months, but outside of that it's really only been sporadically that I listen to them. They're not one of those bands that I can go back to at anytime. The Satanist is an album that's on a different level from their recent sound (meaning the albums after and including Demigod). They stopped doing that annoying guitar technique, I can't remember what it's called, but it's that high pitched squeal at the end of many riffs. That always bothered me and thankfully I don't recall hearing it on this one. In many songs here there's just the slightest bit of melody, not enough to change their genre, but it shows a higher quality of song writing, imo. This album's not an earth shaker but it's a lot better than a six out of ten. I've went through it now close to ten times. Favorite song is Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer.
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
13.02.2014 - 09:23Rating: 6
Written by Daniell on 13.02.2014 at 08:48
Oh well.
"boring 'cause slow"
Yeah, kinda. I'd go with "boring 'cause it's slow Behemoth " though. Not getting where the rewards are for patience with this thing. The more moody and slowed down bits just sound like Behemoth playing Behemoth riffs slowly to me, haven't clicked. Sounds more plasticky and corny than it does evil, been a pain to sit through.
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wormdrink414 ElitePosts: 1295 |
13.02.2014 - 09:35Rating: 6
Written by Yojimbo on 13.02.2014 at 09:12
They stopped doing that annoying guitar technique, I can't remember what it's called, but it's that high pitched squeal at the end of many riffs. That always bothered me and thankfully I don't recall hearing it on this one. In many songs here there's just the slightest bit of melody, not enough to change their genre, but it shows a higher quality of song writing, imo. This album's not an earth shaker but it's a lot better than a six out of ten. I've went through it now close to ten times. Favorite song is Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer.
Think you mean pinch harmonics. Yeah, agreed about those. Annoying when done a bunch, but they did that style that's xeroxed like hell now really well. Seems like there's less double-bassing and tripleting on this too, but if more of that stuff means less emphasis on build-ups, I'd have probably liked this more.
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Yojimbo
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13.02.2014 - 09:44Rating: 9
Written by wormdrink414 on 13.02.2014 at 09:35
Written by Yojimbo on 13.02.2014 at 09:12
They stopped doing that annoying guitar technique, I can't remember what it's called, but it's that high pitched squeal at the end of many riffs. That always bothered me and thankfully I don't recall hearing it on this one. In many songs here there's just the slightest bit of melody, not enough to change their genre, but it shows a higher quality of song writing, imo. This album's not an earth shaker but it's a lot better than a six out of ten. I've went through it now close to ten times. Favorite song is Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer.
Think you mean pinch harmonics. Yeah, agreed about those. Annoying when done a bunch, but they did that style that's xeroxed like hell now really well. Seems like there's less double-bassing and tripleting on this too, but if more of that stuff means less emphasis on build-ups, I'd have probably liked this more.
You know, I think I like build-ups. It just makes for an epic feeling while listening. Nobody does it better than Primordial. That stir of emotion is important to me. I don't notice it when it's not there but appreciate it when it is. If we mean the same thing, that is.
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Ace Frawley The Spaceman
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13.02.2014 - 10:15Rating: 9
Written by Monolithic on 13.02.2014 at 08:17
Seriously, if anyone is ever pissed off on any review, just write down your own review or post your opinion in details and present your own impression of the album without getting too comfortable with words like "u suck because you gave the album a 6.0". Not only you're contributing to the discussion in a better, more reliable way, you're also paving the way for self-expression, for heaven's sake.
Good point. I did that when I thought the Lamb of God Resolution review was giving a one-sided view of the album.
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boo-boo
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13.02.2014 - 10:59Rating: 9
Written by Yojimbo on 13.02.2014 at 09:12
This album's not an earth shaker but it's a lot better than a six out of ten. I've went through it now close to ten times. Favorite song is Ora Pro Nobis Lucifer.
Finally, someone with an opinion similar to mine (able to sum it up reasonably).
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6106 |
13.02.2014 - 11:33Rating: 9
Written by Ace Frawley on 13.02.2014 at 07:16
hey, where did you get a pic of my g/friend from?
Sorry you have such an ugly girlfriend
/endtroll
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immortal78
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Very good review! Behemoth Anno 2014 is moody and .....funny with its satanistic imaginery. There is a lot of things not discovered yet except that. The Satanist dosnt deserve for the highest rate..
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Cynic Metalhead Ambrish Saxena
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13.02.2014 - 15:58Rating: 6
Written by wormdrink414 on 13.02.2014 at 07:18
Written by Ace Frawley on 13.02.2014 at 07:16
hey, where did you get a pic of my g/friend from?
You mean my girlfriend?
Seriously?
You guys have bad taste in choosing girlfriends.
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ParisDimitropoulos
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The reviewer is just ingorant...your oppinion is like shit!!!The album is FUCKING great!!!!
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Written by ParisDimitropoulos on 13.02.2014 at 17:28
The reviewer is just ingorant...your oppinion is like shit!!!The album is FUCKING great!!!!
LEL.
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Written by [user id=4365] on 13.02.2014 at 17:47
Written by ParisDimitropoulos on 13.02.2014 at 17:28
The reviewer is just ingorant...your oppinion is like shit!!!The album is FUCKING great!!!!
LEL.
RAFL.
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Written by X-Ray Rod on 13.02.2014 at 17:56
RAFL.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2511217550/ralph_wiggum.gif
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Written by [user id=4365] on 13.02.2014 at 18:14
Written by X-Ray Rod on 13.02.2014 at 17:56
RAFL.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/2511217550/ralph_wiggum.gif
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I blew it though, only after 10 mins I thought that the Jurasic Park laughter represented my reaction way better.
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