Half and half if you ask me, this album anyway.

Written by psykometal on 25.08.2013 at 16:00
Didn't say they weren't brutal, just that they're more technical than they are brutal.

And I agree, Annihilation is definitely the highlight of their career. I enjoyed their earlier works, especially In Their Darkened Shrines, but Annihilation of the Wicked is by far and above my favorite Nile album.

Oh I knew that, I was just having a bit of fun. hehe

Annihilation... is a fantastic album, gathering all that's great about their music, with what is probably the best production job they've had. The sound on that album is wonderful, I don't like the production as much on the follow up albums. Annihilation... is a beast from start to finish, definitely one the best death metal albums of the modern era.

Written by psykometal on 25.08.2013 at 14:38

Written by [user id=110592] on 25.08.2013 at 12:47

This album, and nile in general are among very few brutal death metal albums/bands wich I enjoy. Still one of my favorite death metal records

They're really more technical than they are brutal.

No doubt that they are more technical than brutal in their later albums but on this one, I think that brutality has the dominant role. Take "lashed to the slave stick" for instance: It does not contain solo and also, there are not much variation is guitar work during the whole song. It IMO is one really impressive brutal death metal song and seems a little simple compare to typical death metal songs.
Also, another reason for me to call them brutal death metal is that I enjoy tech death more than brutal death and its rare for me to enjoy an album with obvious and overwhelming brutal elements.
Anyway, lets agree that AoTW is a really kick ass album

Written by [user id=110592] on 25.08.2013 at 22:11
No doubt that they are more technical than brutal in their later albums but on this one, I think that brutality has the dominant role. Take "lashed to the slave stick" for instance: It does not contain solo and also, there are not much variation is guitar work during the whole song. It IMO is one really impressive brutal death metal song band seems a little simple compare to typical death metal songs.
Also, another reason for me to call them brutal death metal is that I enjoy tech death more than brutal death and its rare for me to enjoy an album with obvious and overwhelming brutal elements.
Anyway, lets agree that AoTW is a really kick ass album

If you go more back in time then you'd see they were even more brutal. I think Black Seeds Of Vengeance is their most brutal one. I think it's similar to their debut in that sense but the production is more raw and cavernous making that album more of a brutal beast.

Nothing brutal about them at all.

Calling Nile brutal is like calling Morbid Angel or Deicide brutal. Totall ludicrous if you ask me.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.08.2013 at 22:30

Nothing brutal about them at all.

Calling Nile brutal is like calling Morbid Angel or Deicide brutal. Totall ludicrous if you ask me.

Definitely Agreed.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.08.2013 at 22:30

Nothing brutal about them at all.

Calling Nile brutal is like calling Morbid Angel or Deicide brutal. Totall ludicrous if you ask me.

your comment on MechanisT's list about tech death:

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 04.08.2011 at 23:35

Shame for you Decapitated, Nile and Death (especialy TSOP which isn't even
death metal) aren't techdeathl

So, nile is neither brutal death metal nor tech death and they play just standard death metal ?

Written by X-Ray Rod on 25.08.2013 at 22:26
If you go more back in time then you'd see they were even more brutal. I think Black Seeds Of Vengeance is their most brutal one. I think it's similar to their debut in that sense but the production is more raw and cavernous making that album more of a brutal beast.

Black Seeds is definitely their most brutal album, and it also has the rawest production of any Nile album, even more so than the debut. The production sucks some of the subtleties out of the music, but it is a vicious and unrelenting album for most of it's runtime. I don't think Nile are a brutal death band, but they certainly have brutal death elements in their music, especially on their earlier material. Brutal death is generally, a very one dimensional genre, which is something that certainly can't be applied to Nile's music. Just about the only fitting description for Nile, is that they are "death metal", as their sound is too expansive for it to fit neatly within any of the sub-genres of death metal.

Nile has nop brutal elements in their music just like Dead Congregation, Morbid Angel, Deicide have no burtal elements in their music whatsoever. Not in their early material iand not in their current material.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.08.2013 at 22:56

Nile has nop brutal elements in their music just like Dead Congregation, Morbid Angel, Deicide have no burtal elements in their music whatsoever. Not in their early material iand not in their current material.

On Nile, I'd have to totally disagree with that. And I can't say I've ever heard anyone saying that Morbid Angel or Deicide's music has brutal death elements in it. The first two Nile albums are definitely more brutal than anything either of those bands have put out. "Legion" by Deicide is a very volatile and aggressive album, but nothing about it is brutal death.

Nile sound nothing like Morbid Angel, Dead Congregation or Deicide so it wasn't even worth mentioning those bands, except to point out the fact Nile are far more brutal on certain records than those bands have ever been, and certainly crossing over into brutal death territory from time to time. This album is a mix of brutal and tech death, as is the likes of, say, None So Vile.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 25.08.2013 at 22:56

Nile has nop brutal elements in their music just like Dead Congregation, Morbid Angel, Deicide have no burtal elements in their music whatsoever. Not in their early material iand not in their current material.

your typos make me believe that you are drunk right now. Right?
Seriously,they are not even technical death metal?

Yep, Joe, 100% agreed on your above statement.

I've always believed a band can be brutal death and not sound like Suffocation or Devourment. Apparently a lot of people don't see it that way.

Written by [user id=110592] on 25.08.2013 at 23:14
Seriously,they are not even technical death metal?

They clearly have elements of technical and brutal death in their sound, without actually falling into either genre neatly. Nile aren't a band that's easily pigeonholed. lol

Written by [user id=4365] on 25.08.2013 at 23:19

I've always believed a band can be brutal death and not sound like Suffocation or Devourment. Apparently a lot of people don't see it that way.

Yup! The thing is, there's actually a world of difference between a band that plays brutal death exclusively, and a band that merely has elements of brutal death in their music. A band in the latter category is not necessarily going to sound much like a band in the former category. Especially in the case of a band like Nile, who have a more expansive sound.

Written by Angelic Storm on 25.08.2013 at 23:21

Written by [user id=110592] on 25.08.2013 at 23:14
Seriously,they are not even technical death metal?

They clearly have elements of technical and brutal death in their sound, without actually falling into either genre neatly. Nile aren't a band that's easily pigeonholed. lol

I agree on this. They are not an exclusively technical or brutal band and borrow elements from both

Written by Angelic Storm on 25.08.2013 at 23:25


Yup! The thing is, there's actually a world of difference between a band that plays brutal death exclusively, and a band that merely has elements of brutal death in their music. A band in the latter category is not necessarily going to sound much like a band in the former category. Especially in the case of a band like Nile, who have a more expansive sound.

You could probably even argue that Nile have a progressive edge on some of their lengthier, more convoluted tracks with the use of non-metal instruments etc.

Written by [user id=4365] on 25.08.2013 at 23:32
You could probably even argue that Nile have a progressive edge on some of their lengthier, more convoluted tracks with the use of non-metal instruments etc.

Oh, absolutely! I'd say without any hesitation that there is definitely a progressive edge on certain Nile songs. The use of non-metal instruments (including authentic Egyptian instrumentation), as well as the more cavernous, expansive arrangements in some songs, certainly adds a prog element to their sound. I think many people just don't associate prog with Nile, because nothing about their music comes off as pretentious, or being wildly obtuse for it's own sake. It never comes across as "show-offy".

Written by Angelic Storm on 25.08.2013 at 23:42

... nothing about their music comes off as pretentious, or being wildly obtuse for it's own sake. It never comes across as "show-offy".

That I would disagree. Nile are show-offy and pretentious on certain level, especially on their latter albums which they lean more toward tech death. Also, it is easy to call them an ambitious band (which is not neccessarily a bad thing). For example, the length of their songs is just too long for a band as extreme as they.

Written by [user id=110592] on 26.08.2013 at 09:04
That I would disagree. Nile are show-offy and pretentious on certain level, especially on their latter albums which they lean more toward tech death. Also, it is easy to call them an ambitious band (which is not neccessarily a bad thing). For example, the length of their songs is just too long for a band as extreme as they.

Nah, I don't think the post-Annihilation albums are pretentious at all. Their first long song "To Dream Of Ur", is actually on "Black Seeds Of Vengeance", so that has been an aspect of their sound for most of their career. Just because the latter albums are a bit cleaner in terms of sonics, and a touch more technical, doesn't make them pretentious to me...

Written by Angelic Storm on 26.08.2013 at 11:01

Written by [user id=110592] on 26.08.2013 at 09:04
That I would disagree. Nile are show-offy and pretentious on certain level, especially on their latter albums which they lean more toward tech death. Also, it is easy to call them an ambitious band (which is not neccessarily a bad thing). For example, the length of their songs is just too long for a band as extreme as they.

Nah, I don't think the post-Annihilation albums are pretentious at all. Their first long song "To Dream Of Ur", is actually on "Black Seeds Of Vengeance", so that has been an aspect of their sound for most of their career. Just because the latter albums are a bit cleaner in terms of sonics, and a touch more technical, doesn't make them pretentious to me...

I did not meant that the longer songs started to appear on their latter albums. Also, I associate these songs with their ambitious and not pretentious, as I clearly stated. Anyway, I think that considering a band pretentious is a subjective matter and thus, let's agree to disagree . The thing that matters is that I really like some of nile's albums and this one in particular despite the fact they sound (slightly )pretentious on my ears

Written by [user id=110592] on 26.08.2013 at 11:49
Anyway, I think that considering a band pretentious is a subjective matter and thus, let's agree to disagree .

I don't think it's a subjective matter in all cases, but it is in most cases. Sounds good to me! lol

Just say masterpiece

A unique and wonderful album ...
Death Metal is a masterpiece ...
^Nile^ is one of the best and most excellent death metal death metal is forever in the hearts of fans

Drums George Kollias this album is very professional ...
I think this album was a drums storm .... Full technique

I heard the drummer with the power of nowhere and no album!!

Their best album. It even has their very best song (Cast down the Heretic). One of my all time favorites for sure.

Written by Rulatore on 26.03.2014 at 18:37

Their best album. It even has their very best song (Cast down the Heretic).

Yes, and yes. That solo.

I used to think this was their best album. Nowadays I feel that In Their Darkened Shrines is their best album, with this album coming in second.

Written by psykometal on 26.03.2014 at 18:47

I used to think this was their best album. Nowadays I feel that In Their Darkened Shrines is their best album, with this album coming in second.

just the same!