Blackcrowe
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Written by John_Doe on 19.11.2021 at 13:20
Written by Blackcrowe on 19.11.2021 at 13:11
List Upgrade 11/19/2021
Exterminator - Total Extermination
The Preachers - Way to Paradise
Satan’s Massacre - Robbing the graveyard and rapping the death
Wheelz of Steel - Volume 1
666Satanic Army666 - Praise Him
Thrash Queens - Ashes To Ashes
Dissected - Anatomy of an Autopsy
I've never heard of any of these. Good thing in this context I guess.
There is always a first time
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John_Doe
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Written by Blackcrowe on 19.11.2021 at 13:55
Written by John_Doe on 19.11.2021 at 13:20
Written by Blackcrowe on 19.11.2021 at 13:11
List Upgrade 11/19/2021
Exterminator - Total Extermination
The Preachers - Way to Paradise
Satan’s Massacre - Robbing the graveyard and rapping the death
Wheelz of Steel - Volume 1
666Satanic Army666 - Praise Him
Thrash Queens - Ashes To Ashes
Dissected - Anatomy of an Autopsy
I've never heard of any of these. Good thing in this context I guess.
There is always a first time
not for bad albums
But when someone calls their band "666Satanic Army666", it's a clear warning it's gonna suck.
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Blackcrowe
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Ag1975
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You should change the title "Bad Records From Great Bands" in "Records that I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE in a great band's discography",
because some of the albums that you list are NOT BAD AT ALL. This is my point.
An example? Dark Angel's "Time does not heal". How can it be on this list? That album is simply brilliant!
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Ag1975 on 19.11.2021 at 16:50
You should change the title "Bad Records From Great Bands" in "Records that I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE in a great band's discography",
because some of the albums that you list are NOT BAD AT ALL. This is my point.
An example? Dark Angel's "Time does not heal". How can it be on this list? That album is simply brilliant!
Good Point… thank you
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Ag1975 on 19.11.2021 at 16:50
You should change the title "Bad Records From Great Bands" in "Records that I PERSONALLY DON'T LIKE in a great band's discography",
because some of the albums that you list are NOT BAD AT ALL. This is my point.
An example? Dark Angel's "Time does not heal". How can it be on this list? That album is simply brilliant!
By the way… I’m pretty sure about everybody here knows, that every list or ranking it is based in the personal taste of the author obviously.
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Ag1975
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Yes, obviously. We always have this tendency to convert our personal taste into an objective point of view, just because we do believe in what we like. It's something normal. By the way, I appreciate your research. I think that 90% albums on your list are really bad
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Ag1975 on 19.11.2021 at 22:40
Yes, obviously. We always have this tendency to convert our personal taste into an objective point of view, just because we do believe in what we like. It's something normal. By the way, I appreciate your research. I think that 90% albums on your list are really bad
Thank You 🙏🏼 I have more lists if you wanna take a look I need that kind of suggestions or opinions
https://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=6915
https://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=6887
https://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=6877
https://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=6867
https://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=6857
https://metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=6391
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Daniell _爱情_ ElitePosts: 6112 |
At the top spot you put the best album by Marilyn Manson, their true masterpiece, a straight 10/10. Go figure.
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Lets Go Brandon
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As awful as the Johnny B Goode cover is on Ram it Down, JP has worse albums than this one. Point of Entry, Demolition, the debut or Redeemer of Souls are inferior. Ram it down has some terrific songs such as the title track, Blood Red Skies, Monsters of Rock or Hard as Iron.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Daniell on 20.11.2021 at 10:42
At the top spot you put the best album by Marilyn Manson, their true masterpiece, a straight 10/10. Go figure.
It’s my personal opinion nor taste, I’m not watching the qualifications , reviews of other users or pop rankings. IMO Manson in that record sounds and dress like a poser and the music was a monotonous, symphony of what not to do in metal, it’s a joke ? if you put a hidden track in the CD with the 666 WTF…
MM was a caricature or a joke of the metal music and the real metal-headsdeserve more respect.
If you like that álbum, sorry if I’m offending you but I don’t like the Posing styling
I found more interesting the next record Mechanical Animals and Pale Emperor from 2015 adventurous and more experimental sounding like a metal version of David Bowie
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 12:34
As awful as the Johnny B Goode cover is on Ram it Down, JP has worse albums than this one. Point of Entry, Demolition, the debut or Redeemer of Souls are inferior. Ram it down has some terrific songs such as the title track, Blood Red Skies, Monsters of Rock or Hard as Iron.
Yes Ram It Down apparently has lots of fans but IMO it’s not memorable as Defenders Of Faith or Painkiller. the main reason maybe it’s the sound especially the drums, they uses a drum machine, plus the absence of great songs or classics
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Lets Go Brandon
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Written by Blackcrowe on 20.11.2021 at 13:53
Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 12:34
As awful as the Johnny B Goode cover is on Ram it Down, JP has worse albums than this one. Point of Entry, Demolition, the debut or Redeemer of Souls are inferior. Ram it down has some terrific songs such as the title track, Blood Red Skies, Monsters of Rock or Hard as Iron.
Yes Ram It Down apparently has lots of fans but IMO it’s not memorable as Defenders Of Faith or Painkiller. the main reason maybe it’s the sound especially the drums, they uses a drum machine, plus the absence of great songs or classics
You're right. Not as memorable as those 2. But Painkiller and DotF are like the very best of JP's discography. Top 5 stuff. Ram it Down cannot be compared with those as it is clearly inferior. But inferior to Demolition, Turbo, Point of Entry, Redeemer of Souls or the shite debut? No way.
Also, have you actually listened to Razor's Decibels? The first 5-6 tracks of that album are some of the best stuff the band has released and only 2 albums from Razor are better, Evil Invaders and Violent Restitution. Not to mention that Decibels is the only Razor album with a good production. I never understood why this album gets so much hate. Is it because the band tried some moderate venture into industrial stuff, specifically with the vocals? Don't get me wrong, but Razor's debut, Custom Killing, Shotgun Justice and Malicious Intent are inferior. Not necessarily because of bad songwriting, but because the band made such poor production decisions that destroyed most of the tracks on these albums. Thrash metal requires a decent production to not spiral into cacophonous nonsense.
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John_Doe
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Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 13:58
Written by Blackcrowe on 20.11.2021 at 13:53
Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 12:34
As awful as the Johnny B Goode cover is on Ram it Down, JP has worse albums than this one. Point of Entry, Demolition, the debut or Redeemer of Souls are inferior. Ram it down has some terrific songs such as the title track, Blood Red Skies, Monsters of Rock or Hard as Iron.
Yes Ram It Down apparently has lots of fans but IMO it’s not memorable as Defenders Of Faith or Painkiller. the main reason maybe it’s the sound especially the drums, they uses a drum machine, plus the absence of great songs or classics
You're right. Not as memorable as those 2. But Painkiller and DotF are like the very best of JP's discography. Top 5 stuff. Ram it Down cannot be compared with those as it is clearly inferior. But inferior to Demolition, Turbo, Point of Entry, Redeemer of Souls or the shite debut? No way.
"shite debut"? I love their debut, I wish you chose and used better language to express your dislike.
Also lists are the most subjective things you will see on MS. I know, I made a very subjective one myself.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 13:58
Written by Blackcrowe on 20.11.2021 at 13:53
Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 12:34
As awful as the Johnny B Goode cover is on Ram it Down, JP has worse albums than this one. Point of Entry, Demolition, the debut or Redeemer of Souls are inferior. Ram it down has some terrific songs such as the title track, Blood Red Skies, Monsters of Rock or Hard as Iron.
Yes Ram It Down apparently has lots of fans but IMO it’s not memorable as Defenders Of Faith or Painkiller. the main reason maybe it’s the sound especially the drums, they uses a drum machine, plus the absence of great songs or classics
You're right. Not as memorable as those 2. But Painkiller and DotF are like the very best of JP's discography. Top 5 stuff. Ram it Down cannot be compared with those as it is clearly inferior. But inferior to Demolition, Turbo, Point of Entry, Redeemer of Souls or the shite debut? No way.
Also, have you actually listened to Razor's Decibels? The first 5-6 tracks of that album are some of the best stuff the band has released and only 2 albums from Razor are better, Evil Invaders and Violent Restitution. Not to mention that Decibels is the only Razor album with a good production. I never understood why this album gets so much hate. Is it because the band tried some moderate venture into industrial stuff, specifically with the vocals? Don't get me wrong, but Razor's debut, Custom Killing, Shotgun Justice and Malicious Intent are inferior. Not necessarily because of bad songwriting, but because the band made such poor production decisions that destroyed most of the tracks on these albums. Thrash metal requires a decent production to not spiral into cacophonous nonsense.
Im a big Judas fan I love every record with a few exceptions. I think every band has a high and lower points and this diversity make those bands so great and the popularity goes bigger and bigger.
Rocka Rolla has its moments but it’s impossible to classified because it’s a debut after that the greatest records in JP history Sad Wings… , Sin After Sin, Stained Class and Killing Machine.
British Steel not being a great record as its predecessors the record its good and very successful
Im still a big fan of Point of Entry a transition record… Then Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith the heaviest and successful records.
The experimental records as Turbo and Ram it Down both are the lowest points in that part of the 80’s.
After that Painkiller their heaviest record and mark the biggest comeback of any heavymetal band… the question its why painkiller was so big? and my personal answer its because Turbo and Ram It Down.
Thank you
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Lets Go Brandon
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Written by Blackcrowe on 20.11.2021 at 14:51
Im a big Judas fan I love every record with a few exceptions. I think every band has a high and lower points and this diversity make those bands so great and the popularity goes bigger and bigger.
Rocka Rolla has its moments but it’s impossible to classified because it’s a debut after that the greatest records in JP history Sad Wings… , Sin After Sin, Stained Class and Killing Machine.
British Steel not being a great record as its predecessors the record its good and very successful
Im still a big fan of Point of Entry a transition record… Then Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith the heaviest and successful records.
The experimental records as Turbo and Ram it Down both are the lowest points in that part of the 80’s.
After that Painkiller their heaviest record and mark the biggest comeback of any heavymetal band… the question its why painkiller was so big? and my personal answer its because Turbo and Ram It Down.
Thank you
I wouldn't call Turbo and Ram it Down experimental records. There is nothing experimental in a sell-out (Turbo) and nothing experimental in Ram it Down either. Ram it Down was a transitional record between where they left off on DotF and Painkiller.
Painkiller was not so big because of the two previous records, but because it is the most well-rounded heavy metal album released to date and the heaviest JP album released until then. At the end of the 1980s and the beginning of the 1990s, thrash was the most popular form of heavy music and was starting to become commercially successful. So naturally, the Priest boys decided to ditch the glam and go for a more thrashy sound, without actually joining the thrash crowd.
The result was impressive and from a songwriting perspective, very consistent. No filler songs at all. It was that moment when all the stars aligned.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Lets Go Brandon on 20.11.2021 at 15:23
Written by Blackcrowe on 20.11.2021 at 14:51
Im a big Judas fan I love every record with a few exceptions. I think every band has a high and lower points and this diversity make those bands so great and the popularity goes bigger and bigger.
Rocka Rolla has its moments but it’s impossible to classified because it’s a debut after that the greatest records in JP history Sad Wings… , Sin After Sin, Stained Class and Killing Machine.
British Steel not being a great record as its predecessors the record its good and very successful
Im still a big fan of Point of Entry a transition record… Then Screaming for Vengeance and Defenders of the Faith the heaviest and successful records.
The experimental records as Turbo and Ram it Down both are the lowest points in that part of the 80’s.
After that Painkiller their heaviest record and mark the biggest comeback of any heavymetal band… the question its why painkiller was so big? and my personal answer its because Turbo and Ram It Down.
Thank you
I wouldn't call Turbo and Ram it Down experimental records. There is nothing experimental in a sell-out (Turbo) and nothing experimental in Ram it Down either. Ram it Down was a transitional record between where they left off on DotF and Painkiller.
Painkiller was not so big because of the two previous records, but because it is the most well-rounded heavy metal album released to date and the heaviest JP album released until then. At the end of the 1980s and the beginning of the 1990s, thrash was the most popular form of heavy music and was starting to become commercially successful. So naturally, the Priest boys decided to ditch the glam and go for a more thrashy sound, without actually joining the thrash crowd.
The result was impressive and from a songwriting perspective, very consistent. No filler songs at all. It was that moment when all the stars aligned.
Ok Buddy, this is my own opinion very personal, I don’t wanna change anybody’s mind, this is just a list of IMO worst metal according my point of view.
I know Ram It Down maybe it’s not the worst record of the band I can give you that, but for me it is just for one song or two I don’t change my mind.
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Robdog
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Haha, love the one-liners, such as: "This band usually makes bad records, but this one is terrible".
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majormalfunction
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Some good records in there but we all have different taste and so on... BUT there's one that really pain my eyes and it's Overkill The Killing Kind, did you maybe confuse it with I Hear Black? The Killing Kind crushes all the way through and contains some seriously good songs. There's definitely a lot weaker albums in their discography like the mentioned I Hear Black but also Immortalis, ReliXIV, Necroshine and Bloodletting.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by majormalfunction on 24.11.2021 at 06:56
Some good records in there but we all have different taste and so on... BUT there's one that really pain my eyes and it's Overkill The Killing Kind, did you maybe confuse it with I Hear Black? The Killing Kind crushes all the way through and contains some seriously good songs. There's definitely a lot weaker albums in their discography like the mentioned I Hear Black but also Immortalis, ReliXIV, Necroshine and Bloodletting.
Im a Huge Overkill fan, it is not the music that I used to for Overkill kind of Rage Against The Machine protest sound in my opinion otherwise the lyrics are lack of creativity some good solos and the band sounds perfect as always….not a good period for Overkill but it’s my opinion.
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IronAngel
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When I was first getting into metal, before you could just find music on the internet, I was limited to what happened to be available at the local library. Consequently, I discovered Helloween through Pink Bubbles Go Ape and Chameleon, and my first (and for years, only) contact with Megadeth was Risk. Even worse, I only knew Slayer through Undisputed Attitude. Never learned to care for thrash.
Far From the Sun was just released (concurrently with their 2003 compilation Chapters) when I got into them, and those are the only Amorphis albums I've owned. I don't get the hate for FFtS. It's not really worse than its two predecessors, even if it's obviously no Tales.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by IronAngel on 27.11.2021 at 13:32
When I was first getting into metal, before you could just find music on the internet, I was limited to what happened to be available at the local library. Consequently, I discovered Helloween through Pink Bubbles Go Ape and Chameleon, and my first (and for years, only) contact with Megadeth was Risk. Even worse, I only knew Slayer through Undisputed Attitude. Never learned to care for thrash.
Far From the Sun was just released (concurrently with their 2003 compilation Chapters) when I got into them, and those are the only Amorphis albums I've owned. I don't get the hate for FFtS. It's not really worse than its two predecessors, even if it's obviously no Tales.
Music means lots of things memories, good times and diversity, many people people found great some records than others not.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Nate612 on 27.11.2021 at 00:02
Where is Lulu?
Lulu it’s a bad Lou Reed record in collaboration with Metallica like a duo. The record is really bad
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Blackcrowe
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Guib Thrash Talker
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Blackrowe, I like you man, but how dare you put SOAD and Slipknot's debut you alt/nu metal hater
Also the only decent MM album at number 1 is super dodgy lol. (ok maybe I'm pushing by saying only decent, but definitely the best).
It's all good, music preferences and all. I know, I know. Still I had to poke at you a little.
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Blackcrowe
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Written by Guib on 27.08.2023 at 19:51
Blackrowe, I like you man, but how dare you put SOAD and Slipknot's debut you alt/nu metal hater
Also the only decent MM album at number 1 is super dodgy lol. (ok maybe I'm pushing by saying only decent, but definitely the best).
It's all good, music preferences and all. I know, I know. Still I had to poke at you a little.
Just my opinion buddy
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Guib Thrash Talker
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Written by Blackcrowe on 28.08.2023 at 18:24
Written by Guib on 27.08.2023 at 19:51
Just my opinion buddy
I know haha don't worry.
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