Overhauls, Transitions, Metamorphoses
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Well, I've seen lots of lists here and I have to say, a noticeable percentage of these lists are great references for anyone interested in music, but I noticed that something new was missing.
What I'm going to do here, is to gather a lot of bands that have gone through major overhauls and transitions in their music, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER THEIR MUSIC IS GOOD OR NOT. As this list is going to be informative, your suggestions and participation is GREATLY APPRECIATED so yeah, it's not your typical favorite album/artist list, it's not your typical best of X, it's going to be done using information. I'm gonna put a HALL OF FAME for more prominent bands and artists in the scene, although it's more of a blacklist as they won't be added to our list as to make way for lesser known cases. If you have any other suggestions for the HALL OF FAME, then you're welcome. I would sort out the list based on alphabets once we reach a certain number. HALL OF FAME: ================== Avenged Sevenfold - Metalcore to heavy metal. Alcest - Primitive black Metal to shoegazing atmospheric black pop rock or whatever that is. Amon Amarth - Grindcore, then Johan Hegg happened. Amorphis - Death metal to a blend of progressive, folk and heavy metal. Anathema - Death/doom pioneer goes soft and ethereal. Anthrax - The critically acclaimed New Yorkers turned alternative for a short period of time, but we can still blame them for rap metal. Bathory - Proto-black metal influenced by Motorhead, became a pioneer of viking metal. Behemoth - (I'll take the MSer's words for this one) Blackened death metal and of course black metal to death metal. Burzum - Early black metal to skaldic ambient music. Celtic Frost - Speed/death/thrash metal to gothic/doom metal. Cradle Of Filth - black metal (with elements of death metal) to gothic or extreme metal. Cryptopsy - "The Unspoken King" speaks for itself. Cynic - Early prog death days overshadowed by a soothing jazz fusion approach. Death - Obvious even for the average non-metalheads. Pure death metal to progressive extreme metal. Dimmu Borgir - Symphonic elements were added later to their Norwegian brand of black metal. Emperor - Dimmu Borgir syndrome. Empyrium - Added more acoustic guitar to their music. Entombed - A classic death metal act...suddenly Death N Roll happens. Seriously? In Flames - I don't even wanna mention what happened there. Judas Priest -From blues rock into heavy metal. Katatonia - Black/doom, later playing alternative gothic metal. Kreator - The industrial experimentations in the 90's were a departure from their teutonic thrash metal sound. Led Zeppelin - Just like what happened with Judas Priest Machine Head - Supercharger. Mayhem - Experimentation, unorthodox transitions, still haunted for not being kvlt anymore. Metallica - Horseman becomes the table. Thrash metal to...modern heavy/thrash metal. Everyone knows Load and ReLoad but in case you don't, in that period Metallica was hard rock. Megadeth - Thrash metal to...wait, hard rock? Dave's so angry, he can make everyone disappear by closing his eyes. Moonspell - Black metal to symphonic gothic metal or whatever you wanna name it. Morbid Angel- We love you, guys. But we hate industrial death metal, it's as bad as Illud Divinum Insanus. Neurosis - Hardcore evolving into "post-metal/tribal" music. Opeth - Progressive extreme metal to 70's rock. Pain Of Salvation - Taking prog music to a whole new level. Pantera - Glam, glam, glam. Alright, just the visuals, but the music was more of a bright heavy/hard rock mania anyway. Paradise Lost - death/doom to electro/gothic and then back to normal, ordinary gothic Sepultura - Brazilian music is fine, guys. Unfortunately we miss your early thrash albums.  Type O Negative- I'm not sure if "Slow, Deep and Hard" can be considered hardcore gothic or gothic thrash. But that's how they evolved into this industrial/gothic doom band everyone's so fascinated by. Ulver - Early black/folk metal to avant-garde chamber music. ================
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| angel. Evil Butterfly Posts: 2419  |
Darkthrone  But was there any major noticeable transition in Darkthrone music later on ? I don't really think so, I believe they're still keeping up with their same old direction in their music. So I think they're not eligible to this list. Quote: are you kidding me ? Come on!
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669  |
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| angel. Evil Butterfly Posts: 2419 |
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:24 what the hell ? ! Get away from my sight, no one is allowed to love Fenriz except me 
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by angel. on 08.11.2013 at 12:27  I mean how can someone hate a guy who takes interviews as a casual friendly discussion instead of a boring TV show?
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| angel. Evil Butterfly Posts: 2419 |
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:30 now I know that interview right ?  I watched it before.
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by angel. on 08.11.2013 at 12:34 I knew.  Doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize it. But it's one of the most great interviews I've ever seen so I wouldn't mind watching it over and over.As for Pantheist, they really moved to a more atmospheric sound while taking a nibble on rock music which is really a smooth departure from their previous albums like O'Solitude. As for Darkthrone,Like I said that it happened in the beginning. and it's "a fusion of doom metal and progressive rock music on their 2011 self-titled album." not prog music alone. Now there is a difference there. 
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| Syk myspace/bonerama Posts: 1504  |
You asked nicely for more, so I give you more Susperia Trouble The Disciples Of Zoldon The Faceless Obscura Jethro Tull Decrepit Birth Killing Joke Ulcerate Ulver/Arcturus Sadus Absu Samael Carcass Coroner Nile Behemoth Rotting Christ The Kovenant Satyricon 1349 Type O Negative Mastodon Def Leppard Job For A Cowboy Prong Life Of Agony Fear Factory Trivium Orphaned Land Bolt Thrower Anacrusis Sigh Darzamat Tristania Theatre Of Tragedy Nocturnal Rites Thin Lizzy and of course, HoFers, Led Zep, Queensrÿche Within Temptation Atrocity After Forever Nightwish & Gorguts
---- death ? thrash ? death/doom/prog ? Hail Zoldon! he's not the kind you have to [url=../bands/album.php?album_id=28982]wind up[/url] on Sundays
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by Syk on 08.11.2013 at 12:43 Great! thanks for the correction as well. Although I would say Ulver would qualify for Hall of Fame as well. 
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| angel. Evil Butterfly Posts: 2419 |
Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 12:36 I strongly disagree with you on Pantheist, no rock music influence is there, just plain doom metal, if you really want to tag rock influence on Pantheist, then 70 percent of the bands in metal will go under the same tag. On Darkthrone I would say again, yeah they had a DM debut.... but :/ erm their general sound didn't change in my opinion. :/
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by angel. on 08.11.2013 at 12:57 There are at least two people who would agree with me on that in MS, not to mention other people who would disagree. But that's just how you and I think. I have my reasons to say it has rock influence by listening to "The Storm" and hearing a prog rock-esque passage and you have yours which I would like to hear.
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| mz Posts: 4837  |
I have Blut aus Nord and Green Carnation on the top of my head. Also why not Deathspell Omega?
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| mz Posts: 4837 |
Also, sentenced, ministry and neurosis would be a good fit I think.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071  |
You could alos add Sameal who changed lot. As well as Paradise Lost, Anathema, Katatonia
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996 
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| mz Posts: 4837 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:11 well, anathema and katatonia are blacklisted here. You did not read the description completely, did you?
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:11 Well I've added them to the HALL OF FAME since a lot of people know that they've changed, what do you think? Adding Samael.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071 |
Written by angel. on 08.11.2013 at 12:57 Pantheist changed extremely lot in sound especially when you compared their self-titled to their earlier works and even their self-titled. DarkThrone also changed extremely. First from their well-produced Morbid Angel like death metal on Soulside Journey to their underporduced raw black metal trilogy then to their simpler death metal again and then to their heavily punk infused bm and now to their also straight up old school heavy metal on their latest
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071 |
Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 13:13 No, I didn't  Tbh I didn't read it at all
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 13:10 added the first 4 here. I'll be back on the evening to add the rest. thanks again.Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:18 hahahahaha xD, but still, I can't appreciate your suggestions enough all the time.
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| angel. Evil Butterfly Posts: 2419 |
Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:15 Pantheist sound changed but to progressive rock ? :/ They're still doom metal :/ Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 08.11.2013 at 13:15 yeah that's tright but I always thought that their overall sound is the same although Darkthrone has been influenced by different styles :/
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by angel. on 08.11.2013 at 13:25 smh...I did not say they're not doom metal anymore. The prog rock influences are there (this would probably be the second time I'm saying their music sounds like a mixture of doom and progressive rock.) but they still play doom metal albeit NOT funeral doom.
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| Marcel Hubregtse Grumpy Old Fuck Elite Posts: 40071 |
Written by angel. on 08.11.2013 at 13:25 Yes I would call thier latest progressive rock as well and not doom. I think even Kostas would agree they've moved away from doom. And I disagree with the overall sound of DarkThrone staying the same, especially when you compare their debut to the rest.
---- Member of the true crusade against European Flower Metal Yesterday is dead and gone, tomorrow is out of sight Dawn Crosby (r.i.p.) 05.04.1963 - 15.12.1996
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by [user id=127889] on 08.11.2013 at 22:01 Added to the HALL OF FAME. Even beginners know what happens in 2011, does not stay in 2011.
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| Monolithic ♠♠♠ Posts: 669 |
Written by [user id=127889] on 08.11.2013 at 22:26 Aha But still I forgot them because they're well-known around. Not exactly a great fan of their 2011 album but their sound...changed.
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Account deleted Written by Monolithic on 08.11.2013 at 22:33 They play now 'industrial metal'. In fact - I'm a great fan of industrial music and dark independent, and I really liked Remix Album of 2011 release. They made a wrong step to unknowed land (for them). Industrial metal isn't hard genre to play - just hire dj/keyboardist, add some synth layers and viola, we have indu metal, but when you're a some kind of king in particular genre, and you're trying to enter to other genre, it always ends the same (maybe Opeth is exception). But if they wanted to be king in indudeath, bitch, please, we have The Monolith Deathcult.
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| mz Posts: 4837 |
Written by [user id=127889] on 08.11.2013 at 23:17 Not really . Their prog rock album was very average while their extreme prog metal is unique most of the time.
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Account deleted Written by mz on 08.11.2013 at 23:26 But referansing to the Metal Storm ratings, it's not as bad. Don't forget that some Opeth before prog rock sounds sometimes very rock or/and calm (my fav - Drapery Falls) which mean that even as prog rock, they know what are they doing.
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| Erik M. Posts: 3104  |
First of all, definitely a good idea for a list. But... WTF, no Summoning, Empyrium, Paradise Lost, Anathema and Katatonia (not sure what the purpose of the Hall of Fame is)?  About Summoning: the difference between Lugburz (the debut) and Minas Morgul is huge. To elaborate: Lugburz is almost pure black metal while Minas Morgul marks the beginning of the true (famous) Summoning sound (which I'd call "epic atmospheric black metal"). About Empyrium, the first two albums are symphonic folk doom (yes, this genre tag comes the closest to the music they're playing) while the last two albums are totally different and are just (neo)folk. I don't think I have to explain why Anathema and Katatonia need to be added, right? About Paradise Lost: the first three albums are death doom and then they suddenly went gothic with the album Icon and never went back to the death doom metal they played (which is a damn shame). Also, not sure if Sirenia qualifies for this list. They went from awesome symphonic gothic (first two albums) to poppy gothic metal. Oh, and also Theatre of Tragedy. Their first two albums are gothic doom, then Aégis is gothic and after that their style changed drastically (which is noticeable if you look at the MS ratings, haha), but you might want to ask Mr. Doctor about that as I know he has heard everything ToT released and I have only listened to the first 3 albums. Alcest's debut is also totally different from the rest of their albums I think. The debut is post/shoegaze "metal", while the 2nd album actually has BM in it and is way heavier. Just noticed you don't have Opeth either.About Kauan: the difference between the first and follow-up albums is huge as well. Also, they were never BM (maybe on Kuu... but I never heard that album).  Just letting you know. Haven't heard Pirut, but I'm really looking forward to hear it, as the genre tag you give sounds very appealing to me.Lastly... I'd have the list in alphabetical order as now it's annoying for me to check which bands are already here. Yeah, I know I'm lazy. 
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