Written by Erik M. on 20.09.2013 at 22:31

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.09.2013 at 09:49

Yes, i gave my thumbs up for those lists when it was around 50 or something and then i lost my interest later when it piled up to 150+.

I don't know it becomes tiring to just scroll scroll scroll scroll and keep scrolling until it finishes. I believe lists should be restricted to 50 or maximum 100. After that, it becomes too tiring.

All my other lists are equal to or shorter than 75 albums by the way. This one is just pretty damn long and it will keep expanding. Why? Because there are always great debuts to be found. While there are 300+ albums on here, it's still just a fraction of the total amount of great debuts in metal. That being said, seeing as there are lots of doom and black metal albums already (my favourite genres, obviously), I'm now trying to add more of other genres such as (classic) heavy and thrash metal, but also death metal.

Your effort is much appreciated. I'm not denying the fact that they're less great debuts available, even if it crosses 500 plus, we shouldn't be surprised with that.

I said only in the context of longevity of any lists that crosses 100 mark, it started losing interest.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 20.09.2013 at 22:40

it is black metal but there a lot of Pink Floyd influence in there as well

Psychedelic black metal then? Just started listening to it and even the intro doesn't sound like black metal.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.09.2013 at 22:40

Your effort is much appreciated. I'm not denying the fact that they're less great debuts available, even if it crosses 500 plus, we shouldn't be surprised with that.

I said only in the context of longevity of any lists that crosses 100 mark, it started losing interest.

Hehe, thanks. Well, I'm taking it easy and won't add 10 debuts each week anymore... now more like 10 debuts each month. So it'll be a while before it reaches the 500 (if at all).

But I get what you're saying about the list length. Have you seen this list before: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=2971&page=&message_id=? What an utterly ridiculous list. Genre-lists shouldn't exceed 100 albums if you ask me (sorry Fearmeister ).

Written by Erik M. on 20.09.2013 at 22:53

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.09.2013 at 22:40

Your effort is much appreciated. I'm not denying the fact that they're less great debuts available, even if it crosses 500 plus, we shouldn't be surprised with that.

I said only in the context of longevity of any lists that crosses 100 mark, it started losing interest.

Have you seen this list before: http://www.metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=2971&page=&message_id=? What an utterly ridiculous list. Genre-lists shouldn't exceed 100 albums if you ask me (sorry Fearmeister ).

Motherfucker, what the hell was that? *watering eyes*

I'm sorry but that list is absolute useless and that too be about particular genre.

Written by Cynic Metalhead on 20.09.2013 at 23:16

Motherfucker, what the hell was that? *watering eyes*

I'm sorry but that list is absolute useless and that too be about particular genre.

Told you so, hahaha. Now my list suddenly doesn't seem that long anymore, does it? Indeed one of the most ridiculous and totally useless lists on MS, if not the most ridiculous/useless list. Also, buber's supposedly "death doom" list (http://www.metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=1447), this list is crap because it features lots of gothic (doom) albums as well) comes to mind and is a great contender for being the worst list on MS, not to mention my own "death doom" list (http://www.metalstorm.net/users/list.php?list_id=3131) is so much better it's not even funny anymore (but sadly it's far from finished yet, so that brings the list down, admittedly).

So here I am with my first suggestion Subterranean Masquerade - Suspended Animation Dreams. This is my example of masterpiece.

Written by Hex_Omega on 21.09.2013 at 19:11

So here I am with my first suggestion Subterranean Masquerade - Suspended Animation Dreams. This is my example of masterpiece.

Seems like a good suggestion judging from the high score here on MS. Will definitely check it out. I always add either 5 or 10 bands at once, so it might be weeks from now until I add it. Oh, and thanks for the +1.

You are right it has become quite the list Lol ! damn..
but bro.. what about Obituary's - Slowly We Rot !!

Written by Guib on 01.10.2013 at 00:05

You are right it has become quite the list Lol ! damn..
but bro.. what about Obituary's - Slowly We Rot !!

Haha. Yeah, for months I added 10 albums each week, but the last 3 months way less than that (I became less interested), so the rate of adding albums has decreased dramatically.

Anyway, you're right. That album is indeed missing and I'll add it soon, probably.

Written by [user id=101272] on 06.07.2013 at 02:05

Static-X - Wisconsin Death Trip

Decided to add it anyway, as I'm being more flexible since I like having more variety in this list. Happy now?

Written by Erik M. on 26.10.2013 at 19:25

Written by [user id=101272] on 06.07.2013 at 02:05

Static-X - Wisconsin Death Trip

Decided to add it anyway, as I'm being more flexible since I like having more variety in this list. Happy now?

It's a start.

Written by [user id=101272] on 26.10.2013 at 19:39

It's a start.

That's a strange thing to say considering I added all of your suggestions except one. And yet you haven't even bothered with most of the suggestions I gave you for your list.

Written by Erik M. on 26.10.2013 at 20:40

Written by [user id=101272] on 26.10.2013 at 19:39

It's a start.

That's a strange thing to say considering I added all of your suggestions except one. And yet you haven't even bothered with most of the suggestions I gave you for your list.

I was kidding.

Besides, I got bored with that list. I'll touch it occasionally but I just don't feel like keeping watch on it.

Written by [user id=101272] on 26.10.2013 at 22:08

I was kidding.

Besides, I got bored with that list. I'll touch it occasionally but I just don't feel like keeping watch on it.

Oh, that wasn't clear to me.

Too bad you got bored with it, as it's a very good list.

Written by Erik M. on 26.10.2013 at 22:17

Too bad you got bored with it, as it's a very good list.

Well, like I said, I'll check up on it eventually. I wouldn't plan the funeral yet.

I know you recently added some albums, but for the next time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vxUjmXbfk

Written by Zap on 24.11.2013 at 18:14

I know you recently added some albums, but for the next time:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_vxUjmXbfk

Thanks for the suggestion. Will add it for the next update if I like it enough.

I updated the list just now. Everything is now ranked according to genre and then alphabetically. Now it's way easier to search for albums of a specific genre.

Sadness avantgarde?

oh yeah and there isn't anything avantgarde about Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion either.

Anacrusis - Suffering Hour progressive? Straight up thrash albeit a little more technical than most thrash but certainly not progrssive that one.

And no Megadeth in the thrash list? wtf? Their debut was a lot better than quite a few you did mention.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.12.2013 at 13:45

Sadness avantgarde?

oh yeah and there isn't anything avantgarde about Celtic Frost - To Mega Therion either.

Anacrusis - Suffering Hour progressive? Straight up thrash albeit a little more technical than most thrash but certainly not progrssive that one.

And no Megadeth in the thrash list? wtf? Their debut was a lot better than quite a few you did mention.

Thanks for checking the genres... but I really didn't change those genres yesterday. It just is more obvious now because of the new ranking. And even though I think it's an improvement it's way more obvious now how few albums of certain genres I have here. But I thought we agreed on Sadness being avantgarde death doom? Or maybe it's just death doom with avantgarde elements which isn't enough to call them avantgarde. Celtic Frost is apparently being called blackened thrash but MS says they're avantgarde thrash.

Fair enough about Anacrusis, will change that too, even though they are labelled as being progressive thrash here on MS. Also, Megadeth's debut is added. The reason I didn't add it before is because so many people view it as inferior to many other albums of theirs. That being said, I just added it.

Definitely let me know if any other genres are off. Also, notice that I put everything with a "progressive" or "avantgarde" tag under those genres, so a "progressive death" album never falls under the "death" genre. I might change this, but I simply decided to do this because it was already a lot of work re-ranking this list.

Celtic Frost only became avantagrde with their Into The Pandemonium album
Anacrusis became progressive thrash later on.
Sadness has loads of gothic stuff in that death doom album of theirs nothing avantgarde about it at all.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.12.2013 at 14:33

Celtic Frost only became avantagrde with their Into The Pandemonium album
Anacrusis became progressive thrash later on.
Sadness has loads of gothic stuff in that death doom album of theirs nothing avantgarde about it at all.

Check the albums then, I've changed the genres. Have spinned Sadness quite a few times when you posted it on my wall (Facebook) and then we agreed on that album being "avantgarde death doom". For now I'll leave it simply at "death doom" and will decide what it really is when I listen to it again today.

Written by Erik M. on 01.12.2013 at 14:37

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.12.2013 at 14:33

Celtic Frost only became avantagrde with their Into The Pandemonium album
Anacrusis became progressive thrash later on.
Sadness has loads of gothic stuff in that death doom album of theirs nothing avantgarde about it at all.

Check the albums then, I've changed the genres. Have spinned Sadness quite a few times when you posted it on my wall (Facebook) and then we agreed on that album being "avantgarde death doom". For now I'll leave it simply at "death doom" and will decide what it really is when I listen to it again today.

imo Sadness should be down as gothic death doom.

Written by Erik M. on 01.12.2013 at 15:01
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Erik there's a few debuts missing from your list... Trepalium, Monstrosity, Malevolent Creation, Brutal Truth, To-Mera, Darkthrone... also shouldn't KC be labelled as prog rock?

Massacre, Master, Slaughter, Sadus, Sanctuary, Sabbat, Fallujah, The Faceless, Repulsion, Rigor Mortis, Eternal Gray, Rainbow, Toxik, Benediction, Suicidal Tendencies, Sempiternal Deathreign, Bad Brains, Infectious Grooves, Living Colour, Incantation, Autopsy, Satan, Slough Feg, Cacophony, Liquid Tension Experiment, Brutality, Violator, Marillion, King's X, Sinister, Danzig, Baroness, Jag Panzer, Lock Up, Church Of Misery, Rage Against The Machine, Children, Cauldron Born, Omen, Sceptic, Psychotic Waltz, Hail Of Bullets, Euphoreon, Rotting Christ, Haggard, Carnage, Sadist, Wargasm

Not only is your Sludge category woeful, but Dragged Into Sunlight are primarily death metal, not sludge

Hey lets make a list of great debut albums, but include every debut by any band ever.

Written by Marcel Hubregtse on 01.12.2013 at 14:42

imo Sadness should be down as gothic death doom.

Just listened to it again. Yes, it has gothic in it, but also feels quite avantgarde to me. Totally unlike any album I've ever heard. Calling them "avantgarde gothic death doom" is a bit pushing it though, hahaha. I'll probably just go with gothic death doom though.

Written by Syk on 01.12.2013 at 15:16

Written by Erik M. on 01.12.2013 at 15:01
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Erik there's a few debuts missing from your list... Trepalium, Monstrosity, Malevolent Creation, Brutal Truth, To-Mera, Darkthrone... also shouldn't KC be labelled as prog rock?

Massacre, Master, Slaughter, Sadus, Sanctuary, Sabbat, Fallujah, The Faceless, Repulsion, Rigor Mortis, Eternal Gray, Rainbow, Toxik, Benediction, Suicidal Tendencies, Sempiternal Deathreign, Bad Brains, Infectious Grooves, Living Colour, Incantation, Autopsy, Satan, Slough Feg, Cacophony, Liquid Tension Experiment, Brutality, Violator, Marillion, King's X, Sinister, Danzig, Baroness, Jag Panzer, Lock Up, Church Of Misery, Rage Against The Machine, Children, Cauldron Born, Omen, Sceptic, Psychotic Waltz, Hail Of Bullets, Euphoreon, Rotting Christ, Haggard, Carnage, Sadist, Wargasm

Holy shit, I shouldn't have invited you to comment here. Just kidding, thanks for the suggestions.

As is obvious, this list can never be complete because there are always albums missing according to someone, as I already said. But then again, initially I didn't even intended to make a huge list as one year ago it just was 20 albums long and those were my favourite debuts.

Written by [user id=4365] on 01.12.2013 at 18:06

Not only is your Sludge category woeful, but Dragged Into Sunlight are primarily death metal, not sludge

I was actually totally not sure where to put that album. Either in the "sludge" or "death" genre, but went with sludge because to me it sounded quite sludgy... disturbing sick album, that one. And now that album falls under the "death" category, the "sludge" section is even more pathetic. I guess Acid Bath is an essential in that genre, but I'm sure there are others, so let me know if that's the case.

Written by Boxcar Willy on 01.12.2013 at 18:18

Hey lets make a list of great debut albums, but include every debut by any band ever.

Do make that list then, because I can't be bothered to create a list like that. 340 debuts in metal is hardly "every debut by any band ever".